Sonnie, say "Hello" to Sandy for me - it's been a while since I've seen her. You may want to suggest she contact her cousin, Don Tate, whom I've been told began writing some sort of Kilmer history a while ago, though I've never seen it. She could also try Art's descendants in Cannon Falls - I think she has contact information. I did e-mail them yesterday, but have not heard a reply since. Additionally, when I was at my mothers home last weekend, she told me of a DVD made from a reunion at Sandy and Leroy's in 1995. In addition, there was somthing on it from a reunion in 1962, though I've not had an opportunity to watch either of them. I will be at Mom's again this Sunday, so hopefully I can get a look at it. I can burn Sandy a copy if she wants it. I would also be interested in anything you may come across - particularily in reference to Abe's brother Jerry - I understand he was quite the colorful character.