The origin of Klingenberg, where may it be?
my name is Uwe Klingenberg,
I live in Meissen, a town at river Elbe
which became famous by its porcelain (dresden china),
this is in saxony near Dresden, East-Germany.
I am interested in knowing
what other Klingenbergs think about the origin
and how the Klingenbergs have diffused over the world.
My Klingenberg-ancestors (gggrandfather) have lived here in the area
southwest of Meissen,
but if you think any hundred years ago
there was no germans in saxony. A settlement in the 12th century
brought germans, with them Klingenbergs.
Where does she comes from?
From the southwest of germany. It is commonly known, that Sachsen
(saxony), the former "Mark Meissen", was colonized by settlers
coming from west.
I 've red in old books
(Family resaerchers know the "Gotha", the almanac of german nobility).
I`ve found that Klingenberg-source is in Schwaben (Swabia or Suevia).
Herzogtum Schwaben is an old duchy (dukedom) around Lake Constance
(Bodensee). The south, Thurgau, is now a Kanton of Switzerland, and the
north, Hegau, is part of Württemberg /Germany.
For example: The castles "Hohenklingen" with town "Stein am Rhein" in
Switzerland and "Hohentwiel" near Singen in the Hegau were in 13th century
in family estate of Klingenberg.
By the way, the mountain (rock) Hohentwiel and other mountains in Schwaben
are made from phonolith, which is in german language Klingstein.
It was the time when the house of Habsburg arrive on top.
Like you know Habsburg was king of germany
in 1273-1308 and 1438-1740. The origin of Habsburg is a castel at river
Aare in Switzerland, this is some miles east from the area Klingenberg.
The Habsburger were in a phase of conquer and so they got countries which
today are in Austria. If you read in some austrian sources you will find
the term "mit den Habsburgern kamen auch die Klingenberger ins Land"
(together with Habsburg also came Klingenberg).
For attention: The castle Klingenberg (now ruin) about 35 km east of
Linz /Austria, near Papneukirchen,
and the castle Klingenberg in southern Bohemia (former Austria) about
125 km north of Linz,
which is now in Czech Republik and called "Hrad Zvikov" near
Zvikov is a MUST for someone named Klingenberg, it is a wonderful castle
on a rock above the confluence of river Vltava (Moldau) and river Otava.
For lovers of beer, the town Budweis is not far away.
Also in the Thurgau the name Klingenberg is not forgotten,
there is a castle "Schloss Klingenberg" near CH-8501 Homburg.
Here in Germany you can buy CD-ROMs with the telephone directory
of all Germany. I know that not all people are registered. But it is
a good instrument for the name-researcher.
I have found 1500 registrations with the name KLINGENBERG and I
estimate that there are about 5000 persons with this name in germany.
The 1500 registrations I have ordered by postal number and made a
card of Klingenberg-density in Germany
(I send the grafic by e-mail if request).
Very much to my suprise I have found that the distribution is not even.
There is a concentration in north-west of germany
(Bremen, Hamburg, Hannover). In the other german countries are only a
few, but in Saxony any more.
The very most Klingenberg live at the middle of river Weser,
in the area Porta Westfalica.
Whenever I 've been in northern Germany than I've found streets or hills
named Klingenberg. The mostly known example is the place
Klingenberg in the city of Luebeck.
May be that you know the Klingenberg world book
(No. 14345, Halbert's Family Heritage Inc, 1995, Bath, Ohio 44210)
This is a very bad book, but there are Klingenberg-directories from
any countries, and there is a blazon (Wappen). The writers of the book
it as THE KLINGENBERG-BLAZON. I know that this is only the blazon
of Klingenbergs from Luebeck. I've resaerched
Deutsche Zentralstelle fuer Genealogie, Leipzig
and found out about the blazons,
and I've learned that Klingenberg in Saxony comes from
south-west Germany, not from north Germany.
There are at least
two origins of Klingenberg in Germany.
The one is that what I have amplifed, in the south,
Schwaben and areas which are now part of Switzerland, Austria and Czech.
The other is the north-west of Germany,
it adjoined to Netherland and Denmark,
also there expand the name Klingenberg.
In the formerly german eastern areas, which is now in Poland and
Lithuania and the russian area around Kaliningrad (Koenigsberg), also was
the name Klingenberg in use for villages and people.
It came from south-west Germany by the knights of
Teutonic Order (Deutscher Orden),
which have foundet the state of Prussia,
and it came from north Germany by Hanseatic League (Hanse).
There is a place, where both sources of Klingenberg come together.
To emigrate is typical for germans, and so will you find
Klingenberg in South Africa, Brazil and USA ...
Let us analyse the word Klingenberg.
Two syllables are importand, KLING and BERG.
BERG is no problem, it is a mountain or a hill.
The german word "Klinge" means a blade, sword.
If you read about where this word comes from then you will find,
that it is imitate/copy of a loud/sound. If a sword hits an armour
than you will hear "kling...".
And so also mean the german verb "klingen".
There is also another meaning about KLING, I've red.
It is written that in old german language a KLINGE was a
valley, a dell.
Look up, there is also the town Klingenthal in Saxony.
"Thal" is the old spelling of "Tal" (valley). Tal is the opposite of Berg.
Linguistic very interesting.
I think that the english verb "to chink" is near on it, but also
Variations in spelling are manifold.
Klingberg, Klingenberger, Klingelnberg (a famous
factory for gears foundet 1814 in Remscheid)
but also Klinkenberg, Klingenburg, Klingenstein etc.
and all variations spelled with C or Ch,
Than comes the englisch converts in USA. I've got informations
from a family in Ohio who write it Klingenberg in the time of
settlement. There was a strong anti-german feeling among the anglophiles
during the latter half of the eighteenth century. German descents has
to anglicize their names, customs, and patterns of speech.
Klingenberg metamorphos to Clinkinbeard.
My question is,
who is also interested in looking for origin of Klingenberg.
Greetings from Meissen
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