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Kirsch Descendants - Ripley and Dearborn Co., Indiana
Posted by: Roberta Estes (ID *****2151) Date: November 27, 2008 at 14:11:07
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I’m tryng to locate the descendants of the Kirsch family from Lawrenceburg and Aurora in Dearborn County, Indiana. They immigrated from Mutterstadt Germany in 1848 settling first on a farm in Ripley County, Indiana.

I am posting this message on all message boards of surnames of families known to descend from this couple. If you have information, please contact me at or

Philip Jacob Kirsch (1806-1880) and Katharina Barbara Lemmert (1807-1889) had the following children:
1. Philip Jacob Kirsch b 1830 died 1905 never married
2. Katharina Barbara Kirsch b (1833-1900) married Johann Martin Koehler (1829-1879) and had the following children (there may be more children):
       a. Mary Koehler b 1851 – nothing more known
b. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Koehler (1854-1884) married Christian Knoebel b 1850 and had the following children:
              b1 Harry Knoebel b 1876 – nothing more known
b2 Karl Edward Knoebel (1880-1964) married Margaret Elizabeth Fisher (1890-1976) and had two children, Edward Winfield Knoebel b 1917, nothing more known, and Margaret Irene Knoebel (1923-2005) who married Irvin William Bultiman and had 4 children
       c. Mamie Koehler b 1869 married John Fichter – nothing more known
After Johann Martin Koehler’s death, Barbara Kirsch married Charles Schnell in 1880 but had no children.
3. Johannes (John) Kirsch (1835- after1917) – nothing more known. May have married Mary Blatz in Ripley County in 1856. Lived in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1917.
4. Martin Kirsch b 1838, dead before 1917 probably before 1904. served in Civil War, nothing more known
5. Jacob Kirsch (1841-1917) married Barbara Drechsel (1848-1930). They had the Kirsch House (later Neaman Hotel) beside the depot in Aurora. They had the following children:
a. Nora Kirsch (1888-1949) married Curtis Lore and moved to Rushville, Indiana. They had the following children:
a1 Edith Barbara Lore (1908-1960) married John Whitney Ferverda and moved to Silver Lake, Indiana. They had two children, Barbara Jean Ferverda and Harold Lore Ferverda.
a2 Mildred Elvira Lore (1899-1987) married Claude Martin and had James Martin who married Inez Spiker and had 4 children and Jerry Martin who married Shirley and had unknown children
a3 Eloise Lore (1903-1996) who married Warren Cook and Al Rutland and had no children
a4 Curtis Lore (1891-1912) never married
b. Caroline (Carrie) Kirsch (1871-1906) married Joseph Wymond and had no children
c. Margaret Louise (Lou) Kirsch (1873-1940) married Todd Fiske, then a Wellesley and had no children
d. Edward Kirsch (1870-1924), died in Edwardsport, Indiana, may have lived in Somerset, Kentucky, married Emma Miller and has the following children:
       d1. Juanita Kirsch – nothing known
d2. Devero Hoffer Kirsch (1899-1975), died in Seelyville, Vigo Co., Indiana, married Mary Schlater and had daughter Mary Kirsch about whom nothing is known.
e. George Martin Kirsch, known as Martin, (1868-1949), married Maude Powers (1871-1941) and had children:
e1. Edgar Kirsch (1889-1964) married Freida Neely (1895-1937), nothing more known
e2. Cecile Kirsch (1892-1988), died in Anderson, Indiana, married Frank Toner (1890-1973), children unknown.
f.. Ida Caroline “Carrie” Kirsch (1876-1966) married William Galbreath and had no children
6. William Kirsch (b 1844 died before Sept 1904), married Carolyn Kuntz, had 2 boys and 1 girl, names unknown
7. Anna Maria “Mary” Kirsch (b 1847, died after 1917), married Bernhardt Kramer and lived in St. Louis, Missouri in 1917.

In my (deceased) Mother’s things, I found a 1965 letter from a lady who I think is Lorine Weatherby who lived in Cincinnatti, Ohio. There is information regarding other family members, but I don’t know how they connect. I have transcribed the relevant portions below. Lorine mentions:

Cousins Eleanor, Robert and Donald Young
Ray and Wilbur Bosse (noted as Aunt Lou’s grandsons – however, I thought she never had children)
Edna Lunt (was elderly in 1965)

Lorine gives a summary of her family as follows:

Lorine’s sister is Mardie Endres, retired principal in Cincinnatti, in 1965 teaching English at Presbyterian Mission College in Mississippi
       Mardie’s Dau Linda - junior at Trinity University in San Antonio (Presbyterian)
       Mardie’s Dau Erin - married living in Anaheim California, has baby boy

Lorine’s Sister (Juanita Heather I believe, married to Walter Heather in Cincinnati, Ohio)
       Juanita’s son Roger has two boys and a 3 year old girl
       Juanita’s daughter Nita has two boys 9 and 6
Juanita’s son Loren Heather (the youngest) - heart specialist at LA county hospital, Ca. (later at University of California at Irvine) - lives at Newport Beach, 4 sons, 12, 9, 4 and 18 mos

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