I am answering your query because there is a person named "Carl" in your research and a person named John F. Kobler. I am hoping you can help me.
John F. Kobler born 1953 (I think)
Patricia Wade, born 1957
He was the son of Carl Kobler who died 1993 in Kansas.
He was married to Alma Haas who died in 1997.
I wish I had more info.
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