Re: Marie or Mannon who was who
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Marie or Mannon who was who
Gina Barkhouse 11/04/05
Gina
I am descended from Antoine Louis Descomps dit Labadie thru his son Pierre by his second wife - Mary.
As you have already found out the discussion about who his second wife was Mary or Mannon have champions in both camps. Based on my reading here is what I think is a probable scenario.
Antoines first wife died in 1767 leaving him with 5-7 children the oldest possible being 8. Antoine would have been in his mid 30's. In 1768 he married 'Marie/Mary' a Saultues indian. The Saultuese are Ojibwe/Chippawa from the Sault Saint Marie area of Michigan. The Ojibwe, Ottawa and Potawatamie were all closely related in aconfederacy for protection against the Iroqois. Marie may or may not been the daughter of a chief. I have seen nothing specific that proves that she was. Since indians did not have prince or princeses as the Europeans that may or may not have had any real meaning. Their first child-Joseph- was born in 1769. Mannon was purchased for 80 bushels of wheat in 1775. The bill of sale indicates that she was a "Panish" indian. From all that I can tell "Panish" stands for Pawnee. It appears that indians were captured by other indians and sold to the French for Slaves. Antoine had both Black and Indian slaves. By this time Antoine and Mary had 4 of there own children plus those still at home from the first marriage to Angelica Campau. I think that Mannon was purchased as a house servant to help Mary with the children. Antoine and Mary had 8 children in all. Mary died in Late Dec 1783. At her death Antoine would have had at least 6 children at home under 10 years of age. I think they were raised by Mannon and the younger ones may have thought Mannon was their mother. Mannon also had children which helped the story that Mary and Antoine had 17 children. Antoine purchased the land where the Hiram Walker distillery is located from L'Aventure Reaume in 1769. The land was originally deeded to a man by the name of Maisonville by Pontiac and Ocquichion in 1765. Pontiac was killed by an Illinois indian in Chahokia Ill in 1769. Pontiac and Antoines father Pierre were friends but I don't think there was any connection between Pontiac and Mary or Pontiac and Mannon. All of the children by Antoine and Mary carry the Badichon name. Badi is short for Labadie because there is no "L" sound in the Ojibwe Language. The "Chon" or "Shon" portion I am not sure of. With the death of Mary in 1783 Antoine married the young widow of a Ft. Detroit English officer -Charlotte Barth - 1784. Charlotte did not accept the indian children of Antoines previous marriage and consequently they continued to be raised by Mannon. It is noted in some accounts that they had a pretty hard life. When the Labidie farm was sold to Hiram Walker in 1854 the Barth descendents did not share with the other members of the family.
My great grandmother was Harriet Labadie Cabanaw (Cabanac) Great grn dau of Antoine and Mary.
I think you will find this account pretty close to the truth. Since you live in Windsor go to the Windsor museum in the Babe house behind the Hilton on Riverside and you will see a couple cabinets with artifacts of the Labadies.
Linn Hartman
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