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Comparison of Lewkenor coats of arms
Posted by: Gillian (ID *****1111) Date: September 01, 2011 at 14:39:32
In Reply to: Mary West, daughter of Reginald, wife of Roger Lewkenor by Gillian of 41

The Lewkenor monument in West Dean church, as shown in the photograph in “Chawton House and Its Owners” taken before the fire there last century definitely shows the coat of arms which is identical to that of the first Sir Richard Lewkenor’s grandson, Sir Christopher, as shown on his turtle coat of arms in the same publication.
However, I have just come across in my notes, from the “History of Ludlow”, J.B.Nichols & Son, 25 Parliament St., MDCCCXLI, a copy of which is to be found in Shropshire Archives, Shrewsbury:
Arms and inscriptions formerly existing in the Castle of Ludlow and Bull Inn there, extracted from the manuscript in the possession of John Mytton, Esq., of Halston Hall in Shropshire, 1823:
P.241 CXVIII Ricx’us Lewkenor, miles, serviens and legem et justic’ Cestriae, anno 41 Elizabethae, arms: Azure, 3 chevronnels argent. Sir Richard Lewkenor son of John (sic) Lewkenor of West Dean in Sussex, was Serjeant-at-law, Chief Justice of Chester, Representative and Recorder of Chichester. He died in the year 1616, aet 76. By descent he also granted the arms of the families of Bardolph, Tregoz, Dallingridge, Braose, Echingham, Camoys, Hussey, D’Oyley, Grandison and Goring.
With Lewkenor, that makes 11.
However, as Sir Richard’s father is given as “John”, when he was most definitely “Edmund” leaves doubt for the veracity of the above. Edmund died having father a young family. There seems to have been some doubt as to whether he was “Edmund” or “Edward”. There is a note in the Lewkenor Book of Hours to the effect that the bishop had confirmed that the lad’s name was Edmund as that was the name with which he had baptized the child.
Comparing with the Denham arms, and avoiding Sir Christopher’s interpretation, the West Dean monument having been completed, presumably, by Sir Christopher and his brothers, we have
Ludlow              West Dean       Denham       1562 Visitations              Carpet              Note
(Named only)       (M. Knight)                     (Some named)
Lewkenor       Lewkenor       Lewkenor       Lewkenor              Lewkenor       1.
Bardolph       Bardolf              Bardolph       Bardolfe              None              2.
Tregoz              Tregoz              Tregoz              Tregoz                     Tregoz              3.
Dallingridge       Dallingridge       Dallingridge       Dallingridge              Dallingridge       4.
Braose              Gronsted       Broose              Braose                     None              5.
Echingham       Echingham       Echingham       Echingham              None              6.
Camoys              Camoys              Camoys              Camoys                     Camoys              7.
Hussey              Bruse              Radmylde       Braose?                     Hussey              8.
D’Oyley              D’Oyley              D’Oyley              Described              D’Oyley              8.
Grandison       Gornau              None              Grandison              imp Meulx?       9.
Goring              Goring              Halsham?       Goring                     None              10.
Braose (but which?) Braose       No lion etc.       Described              No lion etc.       11.
None              Poyning              None              Described              None              12.                     
Senior Braose?       Gronsted?       Radmylde       Braose                     Hussey?       13.
None              None              Noell              None                     None              14.
Goring?              Goring              Halsham?       Goring                     None              15.
None              Culpeper       None              Folyott                     None              16.
None              None              None              Described              Spencer imp       17.
None              Moyne              None              Described              Impaled       18.
None              None              None              None              West/Delawarre        19.
None              None              None              None                     Pelham              20.
None              Audley/Touchet       None              None                     Audley/Touchet       21.
1.       Lewkenor: Az 3 chevronnels argent (throughout)
2.       Bardolf: Az 3 cinquefoils or(on all arms but missing from carpet)
3.       Tregoz: Az 2 bars gemells & in chief lion pass-guard or (throughout)
4.       Dallingridge: Ar or Or a cross engrailed gules
5.       Senior line Braose, identified as Gronsted by Montague Knight. See Note 22.
6.       Echingham: Az, a fret argent (throughout)
7.       Camoys: . Or on a chief gules 3 bezants (throughout)
8.       Hussey: Gules, 3 bars ermine. Sir Roger of Bodiam Castle and Dedisham Park m 2. Constance sometimes called Elizabeth) Hussey. Elizabeth Mephant was honouring her husband’s previous wife.
9.       D’Oyley: Gules 3 stags’ heads cabossed or. (Described, but not identified in Visitations.)
10.       Goring: Argent a chevron between 3 annulets (or mullets) gules (On all the Sussex arms, not Denham).
11.        Grandison: Az 3 pales ar on chief gules 3 crosses patty argent. Called Gourau by Knight. Shown as Lewkenor impaling Meulx on carpet?       
12.       Braose: Az, a lion rampant with an orle of cross-crosslets fitchee or. Tadody Braose. Described but not identified in Visitation.
13.       Poyning: Barry of 6 or and vert, a bend gules. Described but not identified by Visitations. Does not feature in Ludlow choice.)
14.       Radmylde: Barry of 6, ermine and gules See Note 22.
15.       Noell: 3 pales gules in a field or.
16.       Halsham: Argent, a chevron gules between 3 torteaux (Goring?)
17.       Folyott: Argent a bend engrailed gules. Knight interpreted as Culpeper, reverse tincts.
18.       Spencer: Quarterly 1 & 4 Gules, a fret or; 2 & 3 Ermine, a chevron gules.
19.       Moyne: Argent, two bars and in chief 3 mullets sable.
20.       West/De la Warre: Warre: Gules 1 & 4 crusilly fitchy a lion rampant, argent; West: 2 & 3 Az, 3 leopards’ heads inverted jessant de lis or. Only appears on the carpet. Was Mary West one of the wives of Sir Roger Lewkenor of Broadhurst 1420-1478. Elizabeth, thereby, honouring her husband’s grandmother or his grandfather’s other wife?
21.       Pelham: Azure, 3 pelicans argent. Only appears on the carpet. The first wife of Sir Thomas Lewkenor of Goring, father of Sir Roger of Bodian Castle and Dedisham Park, the first husband of Elizabeth Mephant, was Katherine Pelham. Elizabeth was honouring her husband’s mother.
22.       There are three very similar coats of arms, which have been identified as belonging to different individuals: Gules 3 bars ermine is identified as Radmylde, Hussey, Keynes and Gronsted. Gules 3 bars vaire argent and azure is Braose as described in the Suffolk Visitation. I have, before me, a depiction of senior Braose arms which I would describe, in plain English in order to avoid any misunderstanding, as 6 bars, 1,3 & 5 being ermine and gules, 2, 4 and 6 being azure.
Sussex Notes and Queries, P.151: “Included in Vincent’s Sussex Pedigrees is one of the Lewkenor family: with which there is a copy of a seal attached to a deed made between Joane the wife of Thomas Tregoz and her son, Sir John Doyley, and Sir Roger Lewknor on the other. The deed is sealed by Sir Roger Lewknor: who seals with:- Quarterly of four, 1 & 4 gules three bars vaire (Keynes) and 2 & 3 azure three chevrons argent (Lewknor). If this information is taken from an imprint on red wax, how is it that the colours are known? Lewknor may be rightly assumed, but surely Keynes should be approached with care.
I am really pleased to have your information, Steven. Sir Richard Lewknor was buried at Ludlow in 1616. The West Dean monument must have been commissioned two generations later, perhaps even by the widow of the third Sir Richard. The Ludlow and the Denham arms are reassuringly similar in the earlier depictions.
I am reeling quite a bit from all this; any corrections gratefully accepted. Time to unpick the carpet.

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