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Connie: Thanks for your reply. Yes, it was indeed George Krumenacker that I recall. I have probably met Louis Lieb, but my recall of the Lieb family is centered about Rube, Ray, Gus, and Earl. Charles Lieb, son of Viola and Rube was one of my best friends. My aunt Mildred (mother's sister) I believe was the county clerk at Ebensburg, and her husband Bill Lentz owned a prining business there. Charles' sister, Lucile (Lieb) Duman lives in Ebensburg and has corresponded with my sister Jo (Josephine). All of this new information is so engaging that I may make some tentative plans to attend the Nicktown Picnic this coming Labor Day. Now, a minor comment: Your postings are titled with my name as the sender, but maybe there is a bug in the automatic mail sorting program. Not a problem, but just to ask if you are also getting erratic name assignments? Regards, David Anderson