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Re: Linns of Irvine, Ayrshire
Posted by: Loretta Layman (ID *****8343) Date: September 09, 2011 at 06:25:03
In Reply to: Re: Linns of Irvine, Ayrshire by Michael Linn of 1367

You're welcome. Speaking of towns, you might be interested to know that the former barony of Lynn/Linn in Ayrshire became a town, for a time at least. Following is an exact quote from a 1522 charter extracted at the website of the National Archives of Scotland:

"... John Lynn of that ilk, in favour of John Lyne of Bourtreehill and Jonet Montgomery, his spouse ... of sixteen acres of his dominical lands of Lyne together with the house called Burnesyd with the garden thereof and Lyne Knoll lying in the town and territory of Lyne bailliary of Cunningham and sheriffdom of Ayr; to hold of John Lyne for payment yearly of a penny Scots at the feast of Whitsunday on the ground of the said acres ..." You can search for Ref. No. GD3/1/8/11/1 at the NAS website - http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/.

This family is the reason the names Lynn Street, Lynn Glen, Lynn Falls, etc. exist in Dalry today. Go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ and make sure either Smart Search or Place is selected, search for Dalry, and select the one in North Ayrshire. Then zoom in on the map until those names appear. Zoom in once more, and you'll see Merksworth Avenue parallel to Lynn Avenue. This name appears as "Markesworth ... part of the ancient holding of Linn", as recorded in about 1600 by Pont and quoted in his work published in 1858 by The Maitland Club of Glasgow under the title "A Topographical Account of the District of Cunningham, Ayrshire. Compiled About the Year 1600 by Mr. Timothy Pont".

A 1583 sasine extracted at the NAS website, Ref. No. GD3/1/8/11/3, also describes:

"... dominical lands of Lyne called Burnesyd, Garden and Lyne Knoll, lying in the town and territory of Lyne, bailliary of Cunningham and sheriffdom of Ayr ... in implement of [an] earlier charter by Lawrence Lyn to William Lyn his son and heir apparent and Margaret Kyle spouse ..."

I have to wonder if the town of Dalry wasn't originally called Lynn. In any case, this family appears chronologically in Ayrshire records as follows, with names spelled as originally written:

1296 - Walter de Lynne of Ayrshire
1302 - William de Lynne of that ilk
1310 - Elizabeth Linn, daughter of Linn of that Ilk
1385 - Laird of Lyne in Dalry
1452 - Andrew Lyn, lord of that Ilk, chartered Heleiss [Highlees, near Dundonald] to the Hunters of Hunterston
1453 - Andrew Lyn of that Ilk
1505 - Andrew Lyne received a charter from Robert Frances, Lord of Stane, for Bourtreehill [The old estate of Bourtreehill is now encompassed within the town of Irvine but is not to be confused with the modern housing scheme of the same name.]
1507 - Andro Lyne of that ilk witnessed a marriage contract
1508 - John Lyn was heir of his father Andrew Lyn for lands of Lyn and Heleis
1511 - John Lyne of that ilk, superior of Heleiss, gave sasine for Heleiss to the Hunters
1514 - John Lyn of that Ilk, superior of Hieleis, gave investment to the Hunters for Hieleis
1522 - John Lynn of that ilk gave a charter to John Lyne of Bourtreehill for lands of Lyne
1522 - John Lyn of Bowtrehill, superior of Hieleis, received a resignation of Hieleis from the Hunters
1532 - Laird of Over Lynn absent from a wapynschawing [weapon showing or muster] held by the Earl of Eglinton
1532 - John Lind of Croftfute gave a charter to Thomas Boyd for old extent of Lynd in County Ayr
1548 - John Lyn of that ilk and Bowtrehill conveyed Helis to the Hunters
1556 - John Lyn of that ilk and Lord of Bourtreehill gave sasine for Bourtreehill to his brother Laurence Lyn
1568 - John Lin of that ilk gave sasine for Heleis to the Hunters
1569-70 - Laurence Lyn of Bourtrehill appeared in 4 separate documents
1574 - Laurence Lyn gave a charter concerning the marriage of his son William Lin and Margaret Cunninghame
1583 - Laurence Lyn gave sasine to his son William Lyn for lands of Lyne in the town and territory of Lyne
1592 - William Lin now of Bourtreehill, son of the late Laurence Lin of Bourtrehill discharged sums due him by his mother under the marriage contract
1593 - William Lin, son and heir of the late Laurence Lyn of Bourtreehill, recept a precept from Hugh Montgomery investing him in Bourtreehill as heir of his father
1596 - William Lyn of Bourtriehill entered a contract with William Wallace, tutor
1599 - William Lyn of Bourtreehill and Janet George, his spouse, entere a contract
1600 - John Lyn of Over Lyn witnessed a Glasgow document
1603 - John Lyn of that ilk and lord superior of Hileis signed a precept for sasine for Hileis to the Hunters
1605 - John Lyne of Bourtriehills named in the testament of Robert Peblis [Peebles] of Irvine, Ayrshire
1607 - Laurence Lyn of Bourtriehill, son of the deceased Laurence Lyn received sasine
1609 - Andrew Lynn, proprietor of Overlynn
1611 - Johnne Lynne of that ilk named in the testament of Jeane Flemyng, spouse of John Conynghame, Minister of Dalry [Dalry parish]
1612 - John Lynn of that Ilk, superior of Hieleis, gave charter for Hieleis to the Hunters
1616 - Laurencius Lin, indweller of Irvine, acted as attorney for Alexander Cunningham
1624 - John Lyn of that Ilk gave a precept for Hieleiss to the Hunters
1633 - John Lynn junior, de eodem [of that Ilk] was baillie for investment of Ann Blair by her husband, Robert Boyd, in two of the Boyd properties
1642 - Andrew Lynn received a charter from Lord Boyd as heir to his father John Lynn for Over-Lynn and Highlees
1643 - Andrew Lin [in one record] or Lynn [in another] of that Ilk invested his future spouse, Ann Blair, in Highlees
1656 - Andrew Lyne of that ilk and Ann Blair, his spouse, held sasine [they apparently married between 1643 and 1656]
1657 - Andrew Lin of Over Lin and Ann Blair, his spouse, held sasine
1659 - Andrew Lin of Over Lin held sasine [Ann apparently had died]
1667 - Andrew Lyn of that ilk gave a bond in favor of Robert Woodside of Irvine
1668 - Andrew Lyn of that ilk gave a precept for Hieleis to the Hunters
1669 - Andrew Lin received a resignation for Hieleis from the Hunters
1670 - Andrew Lin of that Ilk died in Irvine, his testament being registered in 1671

The property of Highlees was originally chartered by the Lynns to the Hunters in 1452, and a new document - another charter or a precept or sasine - was executed to confirm the conveyance each time the heir in either family changed. Scottish property law was once very, very complicated.

So, the Lynns/Linns sold the old barony (a/k/a/ town and territory) to the Boyds but retained the 16-acre manor place first called "Burnesyd, with a house, garden, and Lyne Knoll" and later known simply as Over Lynn. However, while they continued to own the manor place, they eventually moved their home first to Bourtreehill and later to Irvine, where Andrew, the last "of that Ilk", died in 1670, apparently without issue.

Also notable, however, is that in 1593 Hugh Lin, burgess of Irvine, and his wife Jean Cuningham, gave a bond for 200 merks to William Lin of Bourtriehill [NAS Ref. No. GD3/2/13/8]. In addition, Lynns/Linns continued to live in Irvine through the 17th century appearing in Irvine burgh records, sasines, etc. In 1718-19, another Hugh Linn had two children baptized in Irvine. The next surviving record of Lynns/Linns in Irvine which I've found, is the 1841 census. Both spellings appear in Irvine at different times during the 19th century, in the census and a few marriages and births (although a couple census records indicate births in Ireland).

So, you see why I believe that members of the Dalry family lived in Irvine and why I am hopeful that descendants may live there yet. While I doubted any remained in Dalry, I was taking a long shot by including Dalry in my original query.


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