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Re: Loper DNA tests of Lawrence, Ohio and Greenup, Kentucky
Posted by: Mickey Walkup (ID *****4694) Date: April 21, 2011 at 16:27:37
In Reply to: Re: Loper DNA tests of Lawrence, Ohio and Greenup, Kentucky by kim gilbert of 1375

Kim, I hope I wasn't too confusing with the four different Loper lines. Your line should go as follows: Your father George, grandfather George W.[1909-1983], Great grandfather, Alfred [1876-1960], GGGrandfather, Thomas Jefferson Loper [1855-1937](Your Thomas Jefferson is not the one I was refering to in the message. That one is Thomas Jefferson "Bailey" Loper from Greenup.) GGGGrandfather, Enoch Loper [1813 - d: after 1880], and GGGGGrandfather, James Loper [ ? - D: bef 1 Jan 1827].
Let me explain something on your Enoch Loper. If you look at the 1850 Census, it has him as 54 years old. He always seems to be older than what he really is in the censuses. I don't know how to explain this. But, ac- cording to the "binding out" papers, Enoch was about 14 years old in 1827, which would make his birth about the year 1813. So, if one tries to guess that maybe Enoch is the father of Thomas Jefferson "Bailey" Loper, he is too young. He would have been 9 or 10 years old.
I was surprised at the fact that the DNA samples from Enoch's line and the Thomas Jefferson Bailey Loper of Greenup show a common ancestor back at least 9 generations or possibly more.
Hopefully I can clarify myself a little better. The four Loper lines from this area are:
1. Enoch Loper of Lawrence, Ohio.
2. Thomas Jefferson Bailey Loper of Lewis/Greenup, Ky.
3. George Loper (B abt 1837 in either Greenup or Carter Counties, Kentucky depending on what record you look at. He dies 15 May 1889 in Hocking County, Ohio. He is buried next to my John Loper, but the Male DNA shows they do not match.)
4. My John Loper (when I say who I am from, people mistake him for either Enoch's John or Thomas Jefferson's John, but he is not from either family. According to his marriage record he was born in 1831 in Greenup county, Ky. He moved to Vinton and then Hocking Counties, Ohio. He died 1903 and is buried in the Carbon Hill cemetery by George Loper.)
Because these Four different Lopers originated from the same area I have been doing DNA samples in hopes of finding a connection. The ones I thought would match up was George and John Loper since they are buried next to each other, but they don't. They were probably raised as brothers or close relatives.
The ones I didn't expect to match up was Enoch and Thomas Jefferson. Family members have always claimed this Thomas Jefferson Loper was really a Bailey, and he probably is [perhaps his mother?]. But, somewhere they have a common male ancestor.
So, we have a lot more digging to do.
I hope this was a much better explanation.
Mickey Loper Walkup

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