Re: MADDEN/MADDIN in Ste. Gen., MO area
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Re: MADDEN/MADDIN in Ste. Gen., MO area
Della Ott 9/11/06
Hi,
I believe your Thomas Madden/Maddin was a son of Richard Madden/Maddin and his wife Margaret (last-name-Unk) and thatRichard was a son of Thomas Madden/Maddin and his wife Margaret Brown, who were discussed previously by Kathy Q. Strawn.I have collected a bit of information on Thomas Madden and I will be glad to share it with you if you would like.You can indicate you would like it by posting a reply here.
In the 1860 census for Perryville, AR, your Thomas and his family were listed as close neighbors of two Holmes brothers, Thomas E. and William J (actually should be I) Holmes.Both Holmes brothers had been born and raised in Ste. Genevieve county MO and they married two Madden sisters from Ste. Genevieve Co who were the daughters of Richard Madden.The older brother Thomas Holmes had married Rachel Madden who died in AR between 1850 and 1860 and was the mother of his children: Letitia, Mary, Margaret and James.Margaret was listed in the 1850 Census living with Thomas.Thomas's second wife Susan is listed in the 1860 census data and youngest child William is her son.William Isom Holmes married Margaret Madden and your Thomas was living next door to this couple and their children in 1860.
The two Holmes brothers were sons of William Holmes who married in Ste. Genevieve Co. MO in 1807 and died there in 1851.Since William Holmes named his youngest son Richard Madden Holmes and since two of his other sons married daughters of Richard Madden, I assume William Holmes and Richard Madden were close friends.Both men seem to have been born and/or raised in Pennsylvania or Maryland and to have migrated to Ste. Genevieve Co. MO in the 1790s.I also suspect they were kin to each other through Honour Wells Holmes Brown.Honour was Richard's maternal grandmother.I suspect that William Holmes may also have been a grandson of Honour and her first husband William Holmes and I am hoping someone can help me find proof of such a relationship.
Honour and William Holmes had a son William who apparently disappeared from written records around the time of the Revolutionary War.Possibly that son William died during the war but I wonder if he may have fathered a son named William (b. 1777 in MD) who grew up near his father's family and migrated to Missouri with the family of Honour's daughter Margaret Brown Madden.
I am descended from William Holmes who settled in Ste. Genevieve Co. MO in the late 1790s and was apparently closely connected somehow to Richard Madden.I do not know who the parents of William Holmes were but I do know that our family thought he was from Pennsylvania and that he had married half-sisters back in Pennsylvania.However, in the 1850 census data, the census taker was told William was born in MD.It appears that my William Holmes seems to have lived in the same areas where Honour Wells Holmes Brown lived: first in MD and then in Pennsylvania before she and her second husband finally settled in a part of Virginia that became West Virginia.
William Holmes named his oldest son James Wells Holmes and James Wells was the father of Honour Wells.William named other sons Alexander Washington, Thomas E, William Isom, Richard Madden, and Robert Blackwell Holmes.James, Alexander, Thomas, William and Richard are names popular with the Wells and Holmes families.Robert Blackwell was the brother of William Holmes' wife Mary Blackwell Holmes and most likely the person for whom William and Mary Holmes named their next to the youngest son.
William Holmes was one of the earliest land owners in the Cook Settlement in St. Francois Co. MO, a settlement founded by Nathaniel Cook, the man who married Honore Maddin, sister of Richard Madden.There just seems to be a lot of connections between William Holmes and the Maddens that seems more like kinship than just close friends.
If anyone has any more information on a Madden-Holmes connection, I would appreciate hearing about it.
-Lynn
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Re: MADDEN/MADDIN in Ste. Gen., MO area
Della Ott 12/04/07