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Re: Marsalis/Marselis/Marselise/Marcelis/Marcelisse/Merselis
Posted by: Sharon Marsalis (ID *****6903) Date: June 29, 2010 at 12:27:16
In Reply to: Re: Marsalis/Marselis/Marselise/Marcelis/Marcelisse/Merselis by Sharon Marsalis of 33

Some old summations and conjectures and factual history that might help us all to put matters in context and connect some dots:

51 years before Pieter Marselis arrived on De Bever:

1610, at least one Dutch ship came to the New World. Captain Adrein Block and his crew spent the winter on the tip of Manhattan and gave it sarcastically the name New Amsterdam.
Cornelius May and others came to trade but not to colonize.

1614, a fort and trading house were built at present day Albany and was then called Fort Orange. About the same time another fort and trading house were set up on the southwest point of "Manhatta" (Indian name) or "small island".

The entire colony now was called New Netherlands.

1621, the Dutch West India Company was chartered and 8 men and 1 woman were sent as settlers.

1624, 30 families of Walloons came on the ship "New Netherland" with its Captain Cornelis Jacobsen May.

Mostly they were Protestant refugees, farmers from South Holland. All agreed to obey orders of the West India Co., be loyal Reformed Calvinists and convert the heathen.

1626, Peter Minuit arrived as governor-general.
Serious colonization and trading was going on.

1633 Wouter Van Twiller became governor general arriving via same ship as New Amsterdam's first minister and first school teacher.
(A layman named Bastien Jansen Crol had been certified as "comforter" on the voyage over and was later allowed to baptize and marry.)

Then followed William Kieft who 'despised" the Indians with whom trade depended. This led to some settlers returning to Holland and others scattering to other settlements.

1647 Peter Stuyvestant arrived to replace Kieft.

Now shift to the New Jersey story:
To encourage immigration large tracts of land and feudal privileges were granted to "patroons" by the Dutch West India Co.

1630, "Michiel Reyniersz Pauw, Heer Van Achttienhoven" registered the patroonship of Pavonia. Pauw had been a founder of the West India Co., a director and at one time the ambassador to the French Court. He was a Dutch nobleman and had inherited his title as Baron of Achttienhotoven (in South Holland) from his father who had been burgomaster of Amsterdam and ambassador to Denmark and ultimately one of the States General of the Netherlands.

Erik Amburger in DIE FAMILIE MARSELIS states:

"The daughter of Captain Michiel Pauw and his wife Anna Maria Fassijn was Adriane Pauw, born at the Hague on Nov. 21, 1652, died Apr. 17, 1713.
Adriane Pauw married April 2, 1669 FRANS MARSELIS, the son of Isabeau van Straten and GABRIEL MARSELIS.

Pavonia ("Peacock") was called Communipa(u)w in the southern part, Ahasimus in the central part and Hoboken in the northern part.

Pauw began to buy the land from the Indians and to develop it. He sent over CORNELIS VAN VOORST as director who was settled as superintendent of the colony at Ahasimus as early as 1632.

CORNELIS VAN VOORST had a house in Ahasimus in the central area. "Back of the salt marsh bordering the Hudson... directly across the river from lower Manhattan"

1639 or 1638 Van Voorst died in the very early spring. His family was the first known family to have permanently settled in New Jersey.

Cornelis Van Voorst b. abt 1580 either in Vorst in Gelderland or Vorst near Antwerp married VROUWTJE IDES.

Apparently his wife and children arrived in "Virginy" or the New land before Van Voorst who was detained in Amsterdam but arrived later with 2 ships.

One record indicates that "Van Voorst came to NN with the Hulft Expedition of April 1625 and that his wife and children had preceded him on the ship Orangeboom."
Another record guesses that Van Voorst came with de Rasiere in 1626 and that his wife and kids came with Minuit.

Regardless, Pauw disposed of his colony of Pavonia in 1634 and Van Voorst became a tenant of the West India Co.

After Van Voorst's death Director Kieft leased to the widow Vrouwtje Ides the Company's brewery at Ahasimus. (She later married Jacob Stoffelson)

With the VAN VOORSTS arrived eldest son JAN and several other children and grand children.
Hendrick Cornelissen Van Vorst was another son.
IDE CORNELISSEN VAN VOORST and his sister Annetje Cornelis Van Voorst ( m.Kuyper/Cuyper) were minors at their father's death.
And PROBABLY Gerrit Jansen Van Voorst who was slain by the Indians while "roofing/thatching a house behind the cul (Newark Bay)" was a son.

He is reputed to be the "first native white male to have been born in New Netherlands". He was also once captured by the Indians but released unharmed.

1652, October 18, IDE CORNELISZEN VAN VOORST of New Amsredam married Hilletje JANS from Oldenburg.

(His name is mentioned a good bit in New Amsterdam (NY) and Ahasimus records over the mid 1600s. By 1664 he has a lot next to his sister in Ahasimus and he was appointed as a "court judge".

1667 Male member of the Church of Bergen, IDE CORN VAN DER VORST.

1674, the election of Schepens for the town of Bergen.. Gerrit Gerritsen.. PIETER MARCELISSEN.. IDE VAN VOORST.

1685, Dec 28, "buried IDE CORNELISZ VAN DE VOORST, at New York, with pall, of Bergen."
1705, Dec 18, "buried HILLETJE JANS, wid. of IDE VAN DE VOORS from Ahasymus" with pall.

1.Vroutie Iden Van der Vorst,2. Annetje Van Voorst,3 PIETERJE VAN VOORST (married May 11, 1681, MARSELIS PIETERSE, son of PIETER MARCELISSE and ELIZABETH.),
4. Cornelius Van Voorst, 5 Joanna Van Voorst, 6 Hilletie Idens

A Book I highly recommend is ISLAND AT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, The Epic Story of Dutch Manhattan and the Forgotten Colony That Shaped America.
Again I am grateful for the over 50 year research dedication of Tempe Fenn Crosby and all those who helped her in the beginning like Tommy and Carrol and May Toney.
I will do a separate posting now for Pieter Marselis as we have seen his son Marcelis Pieterse marry the daughter of Ide Van Voorst and Hilletj Jans and the granddaughter of Cornelis Van Voorst and Vrouwtje Ides.

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