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Re: MARTINIE, Ernst/Martinie in Illinois
Posted by: Betty Ann Bowles (ID *****4006) Date: October 14, 2007 at 14:27:15
In Reply to: Re: MARTINIE, Ernst/Martinie in Illinois by Valerie Martinie of 146

Hi Cousin Valerie,

Good to hear from another Martinie! (You and I are kin on both the Martinie and Bryant families!) Unfortunately, most of your information is incorrect information that has been handed down and mixed up by family members for years. When I first started researching the Martinie family in 1961, I was told my ancestor was Jonathan Martinie and that his father was Ernest Friederick Julius Martinie, JR, who was born in Alsace Lorraine and was the son of a rich banker there. Ernest was a Hessian soldier and a Lieutenant (or officer) in Rall's Regiment, captured by General George Washington at the Battle of Trenton and paroled at his request to Carlisle, PA. From there, family accounts differ a little. Some say he joined the American forces and some say he sent to Europe for his wife while others say he married a Louderback girl from Virginia. The family had two sons - Jonathan and David and came to Henry Co KY where they lived the rest of their lives.

With this information, I set out to prove or disprove it. Apparently, the family got a lot mixed up. Here are the facts as I have researched and proved based on German church records, his military records, his diary, land records, Jonathan's bible, reading multiple histories, etc.:

Ernst Friederich Martini was born 30 May 1753 in Gandersheim (not Alsace Lorraine). The area is now called Bad Gandersheim, Germany (north central area) His father was not a banker but owned and operated the baths there. His maternal grandfather was a footman in the abbey there. Ernst was a "Hessian" soldier during the Revolutionary War. I know exactly when he left, what ship he came over on, where he landed, and that he was captured at the Battle of Saratoga in New York. Thus, he became a prisoner of war and a part of "the Convention Army" which was then marched to Boston, Mass and then to Charlottesville, VA. (Much has been written about their hardships.) Ernst/Ernest deserted in Virginia 1780. I'm trying to find proof of his marriage to Susannah Louderback (Lauterbach) who lived with her family in the Shenandoah Valley. They had only two known children - Jonathan (my 2nd'd great-grandfather) born 5 Nov 1781 in Virginia and David (your 3rd-great-grandfather) born 2 Jan 1783 (probably in Virginia). After Susannah's father died in Shenandoan Co Va, the family came to Kentucky, settling in Franklin County and then in Henry County, where Ernst was nominated to be a Justice of the Peace. (He had beautiful penmanship, as evidenced by a copy of a diary he kept coming over to America. In his diary, he signed his name as "E.F.Martini". He was an NCO (Non-commissioned officer). When they came to Kentucky, they started spelling it "Martinie"). He was a witness to many legal documents. Ernst died in Henry Co 25 Sept 1832. (He originally had two tombstones but with different birth dates. Apparently, the first erected was wrong and another one was erected without taking down the wrong one. Unfortunately, the wrong one is the only one that has survived.)

This is how you descend:
1. Ernst Friedrich Martinie (1753-1832) married Susannah Louderback (Had 2 children)
2. David Martinie (1783-1829) married 1806 Cesea Stewart
(Had 10 children)
3. William Coblin Martinie (1826-1908) married 1857 Amanda Elizabeth Bryant (I'm related to these Bryants too!)
(Had 7 children)
4. William Arthur Martinie (1868-1917) married 1890 Avanda (or Ovonda) Watts
(Had 10 children)
5. Horace E. "Mike" Martinie (1908-1994) married 1935 Mary Nell Martin. (I have no further information on their children.) (Your grandparents).

For my records, could you please give me information about the children and grandchildren of Horace and Nell Martinie? You can e-mail me directly at

It's always thrilling to know of another Martinie! Thanks for writing!

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