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Re: Archbishop John McHale
Posted by: Richard Conway (ID *****2877) Date: April 17, 2008 at 05:07:27
In Reply to: Re: Archbishop John McHale by Karen Breslin of 462

Karen: Hello - to answer your question quickly, I've cut and paste some text from a letter I sent a while ago. It's mainly stuff from Hillary Andrew's book. As the text states, I've managed to download pdf books on McHale (links below) but have not yet had time to read them in detail.

Best of luck !

Here is some extracts of Hilary Andrews book:

Page 9
John MacHale was born on 6th of March 1791. The MacHales lived in Tubbernavine, a village in the west of Ireland that derived its name from the Celtic hero, Fionn or Finn MacCumhail. John’s parents were Padraig Mor and Mary Mulkeirnan. John was the 6th of 10 children

Page 40
He had a younger half-sister Catherine who gave him piano lessons (contradicts page 67)

Page 67
(paraphrased) John’s father lived until 1837 aged 88. His father had re-married after his wife’s death and John had had 3 more sisters. 2nd wife was Mary Martin. The three sisters from the second marriage were Margaret, Eileen and Barbera.

Page 257
MacHales own nephew Patrick MacHale, who was to inherit the family home in Tubernavine was a Fenian. In notes written by the family, it says that he saw the police’coming at Philbin’s [the next house down the road] to arrest him. He ran out the hall door and away to America’

Page 287
John MacHale had 6 brothers
The eldest, Thomas accompanied John to Maynooth in 1807. After that, little is known about Thomas.
The next brother Martin married and had two daughters. Martin died young and his two daughters were reputed to have been reared by the Archbishop.
Myles the next brother died in 1816 aged 29, also leaving a young family
John’s brother James became a priest and he died in 1833.
MacHale’s older sister Anne lived to be 82 and died in 1861. The Archbishop was said to be very attached to his sister and was deeply grieved at her death. Anne married and had one son, John.

The Archbishops brother Patrick married and died in 1831, leaving two sons, Dominick who died in 18 51 and Thomas, who became a priest and later a professor at the Irish College in Paris.

The Archbishop’s younger brother, Edward had a large family who remained at the family district of Laherdane and whose descendants live there still.

One of the Archbishop’s cousins, one ‘Beezy Barrett’ is said to have walked the 40 miles every month to receive her rent.

Two of his nephews, John, the son of his sister Anne and John, the son of his brother Edward were both expelled from St Jarlath’s College for raiding the wine cellar at night. Another of his nephews , Patrick was known to be a Fenian. He escaped to America.

After seeing Hilary Andrews book I started to track down and buy her published source material, all long out of print. I managed to buy two of them on the web, then I hit pay dirt. At this link, you can download pdf copies of about 5 books on Archbishop John ! you can also download them as text files which means you can do a quick word-search, i.e. for Ballygommon or Keelogues which might help you on your way:

The pdfs take a while to download but the images are excellent. Each one has at least one picture of John and the book of sermons has a picture of his nephew Thomas.

I haven't had time to go through them yet but a quick scan of one of them
gave me the lineage of Archbishop John:

Archbishop John
Son of Patrick Mor
Son of Myles
Son of James
Son of Rickard
Son of Searun
Son of Myles

At a rough guess, the eldest Myles would be born somewhere in the early-mid

Here’s another link, to down load a PhD Thesis on Archbishop John



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