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Robert Joseph Mean
Posted by: John Nathan Mean (ID *****3277) Date: October 23, 2010 at 20:56:43
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Tina Townsend looks for her great great great grandfather, Robert Joseph Mean. One Thomas Murray was kind enough to send information on Robert showing much information including his marriage dates et al. Here is what I found:

In the 1861 English Census:

Robert Mean, husband, East Horndon, Essex, England, 34
Eliza Mean, wife, 42
Thomas Mean, son, 13
Maria Mean, daughter, 11
Naomi Mean, daughter, listed as 17, but likely 7
William Mean, son, 5
Sarah Mean, daughter, 2
Robert, 2 months

However, in the 1871 English Census Eliza is not to be found, and one will find for Upminster, Essex, England:

Thomas Mean, parochial relief (invalid),athsmatical 44
Bridget Mean, 34 (born County Kerry, Ireland)
Denis Mahony, son, 15, step-son Bulphan Essex
Mary A. Mahony, step-daughter, 13 Herongate
Daniel Mahony, step-son, 10
Ellen Mahony, step-daughter, 7
Robert Mean, 10
Joseph Mean, 3
Peter Mean, 1

They thereupon disappear from the English census.

Tina Townsend stated that her family lore had her great great great grandfather coming from England with a Catholic Step mom being Robert's father. She states that Robert Mean was born in 1861, but that Elizabeth died around 1865. If true, consider the following:

Canadian Census, New Brunswick, Kent, Carleton County, 1881:

Thomas Mechan, 56
Bridget Mechan, 60 (likely 50)
Denis Mahony, 23
Daniel Mahony, 20
Mary Mahony, 22
Ellen Mahony, 16
Robert Mechan, 20
Joseph Mechan, 11
Peter Mechan, 9

In the Mean family lore, Robert Mean came from England around 16 years of age, sometime around the time of the American civil war. However, he never spoke of his family throughout his life and his age and time of entrance to Canada are suspect. It was said he ran away from home and was the black sheep of the family. However, it is witnessed that he always thought highly of his wife Mary Jane, and in the last years of his life, lived with his son, Manzer, and his wife. All sons of his were known to be very kindly towards their wives. It was thought he came by way of the port of Halifax, Canada, then made his way to New Brunswick, where he married Mary Jane in 1886. The evidence thus far would suggest that maybe he came with his family as shown below.

It seems likely that the Bridget and her sons and daughters, the Manhony's, comprised the Catholic woman who moved to Canada from England, who married Thomas after Eliza died "around 1865", whereafter he "married a Catholic woman" who moved to St. John, NB, with several of her children and Robert et al. This would corresond to Robert showing up in NB around the 1880's at the appropriate age whereupon he married Mary Jane on October 6th, 1886. If so, his first-born, Horace, born the next year after their marriage, was my father's Dad, being Rev. John David Mean, born 1932, with his oldest son being John Nathan Mean, born 19610 in Halifax, N.S., Canada.

Nathan Mean


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