Don't know about relationship, but I just found them in "German Immigrants Bound from Bremen, Germany to New York, List of Passengers" (book).Christian (age 26), Gottlieb (16), John (23), Matthias (22) all came over from Frossingen in 1863. (List # 0990)...I don't know what ship. Hope this helps some; also don't know if I'm related, yet. My father = Gordon Messner; his father =Frederick William Messner; his father = William Frederick (Moessner; spelling change) Messner. That's all I know.
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