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Mudie's who don't match ydna to each other...wow
Posted by: melissa1 (ID *****1156) Date: May 08, 2011 at 05:40:44
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Every time I see the sheer number of our participants in our Ydna Surname Project and note how many Different branches of Moody's, Moodie's, Mudie's, Mooty's etc. that there are, I am truly stunned.
Again we have yet another Mudie who is of the common R1b haplogroup that matches to no other Mudie's of any spelling nor to the other one that I am aware of who has been ydna tested. There could be others who are simply shown as Unknowns on our pages too, but either way there is no match between them that I know of.
This is really surprising to me because the Mudie's of that spelling claim to be of Norwegian background as the Moodie's of Orkney do, and yet so far none of them have the Norse signature Haplotypes as our I1a and now I1d clearly shows. Again, so far, outside of what they call the "true Viking" haplogroup of R1a, we are the Only small group within our Surname Project that have that signature Norse (Norwegian) Ydna signature that can at least be traced back and or associated heavily with other Norwegians.
There are others with Scandinavian background histories but not from the region of Norway as ours is. They appear to be mostly Danes and Swedes. We are Norse.
Again, to my knowledge there has only been One Moodie ydna tested and he was from Shetland and of the R1a haplotype.
However he has not matched to anyone, at least that is showing up in any dna study that I am aware of to date.
So obviously the Moody name (all spellings) had it origins in MANY different categories of life along its long historical paths.
It is still yet unknown to me if the Moodie's who claim to be from Orkney (Hoy, Kirkwall etc.) actually do descend from the Norse Viking raid era or any Norwegians at all as the Moodie claims. This is why it would be so great to have more of the males from those branches Ydna tested.
The Moodie book actually says that the Norse line among them stems from their female line, so if that is the case their male line is Norwegian at all.
If that is the case, then perhaps we / our small branch of 12 Moody's do indeed descend from the Robert MODDI who I believe, his family was from Norway originally, but removed to Orkney for perhaps several generations and then Robert MODDI removed back to Norway (around the mid section of Norway is where he lived as I recall), and perhaps we are of his lineage line.
I do believe they kept their Norwegian spelling of the name as MODDI too or something similar.
Robert Moddi was an extremely wealthy merchant in Norway as I've been told, but no one seems to know much about him either. Its really sad that we can't seem to track down the very roots of our ancestry.
Perhaps our Moody's are truly some descendants of the Norwegian vikings who set up camp in Dublin, Ireland and we never left Ireland from that time. I suppose its possible. We can't seem to find our branch of the Moody's anywhere in Scotland even though several claim to have roots there before landing in Nor. Ireland.
I guess our branch is unique in itself, perhaps stemming from no known branch that links to either the Moodie's or Mudie's anciently. Who knows, but I am always amazed to see when those of the Mudie name from the area of Arbroath who are said to be the only ones who still spell their name that way, have no ydna matches between them. The Mudie book says that those who have that spelling originated from the area of Arbroath or at least have ties to those in that area. Somehow that is proving not to necessarily be the case.
Hopefully in the near future we will get more males of these two well known Moodie and Mudie lines of Scotland to participate in our Ydna Surname Project and they can help sort us all out.



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