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Re: Who's the Moody who knocked up my Smith?- New R1b MOODY of ME-
Posted by: Perry Bent (ID *****7547) Date: February 12, 2012 at 16:09:26
In Reply to: Re: Who's the Moody who knocked up my Smith?- New R1b MOODY of ME- by Barbara Baker of 11595


I'm not even in the Moody chart, as far as I know. I went into the Smith project, and matched a Moody in the FTDNA project for 67 markers.

My email is

Thanks for your help!


The markers are:

PANEL 1 (1-12)
Marker DYS393 DYS390 DYS19** DYS391 DYS385 DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389I DYS392 DYS389II***
Value 13 24 14 11 11-14 12 12 11 13 14 29

PANEL 2 (13-25)
Marker DYS458 DYS459 DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449 DYS464
Value 18 9-10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15-15-16-16

PANEL 3 (26-37)
Marker DYS460 Y-GATA-H4 YCAII DYS456 DYS607 DYS576 DYS570 CDY DYS442 DYS438
Value 11 11 19-23 15 15 20 17 37-39 12 12

PANEL 4 (38-47)
Marker DYS531 DYS578 DYF395S1 DYS590 DYS537 DYS641 DYS472 DYF406S1 DYS511
Value 11 9 15-16 8 11 10 8 10 11

PANEL 4 (48-60)
Marker DYS425 DYS413 DYS557 DYS594 DYS436 DYS490 DYS534 DYS450 DYS444 DYS481 DYS520 DYS446
Value 12 23-23 16 10 12 12 15 8 11 22 21 13

PANEL 4 (61-67)
Marker DYS617 DYS568 DYS487 DYS572 DYS640 DYS492 DYS565
Value 12 11 13 11 11 12 12

My research is:

It appears that Hannah Smith had an out-of-wedlock son, Randolph Augustus Smith, when she was about 17. She married Alpheus when she was about 20, and her son, about age 3, was brought up with his Nutter half-siblings by Alpheus and Hannah. Randolph's half-sister, Rosette, acknowledges him as her half-brother in her will. Since she had no other marriages before Alpheus (Towle is acknowledged as her second marriage, not third, in the marriage record), Randolph couldn't be legitimate.

Source: Early Families of Newfield, ME
Joseph Smith was born 7 April 1771 (Nf. VR] and died Sept 1849 [g.s.]. His wife was Mary D., called Polly, b. 25 Dec. 1770 [Nf. VR], died in Wakefield, NH, 4 Feb 1844 [g.s.]
Joseph and Mary came from New Hampshire to Newfield by 19 May 1797 when they bought land on Range M here [YD 66:134, 67:178]. They moved just over the state line into Wakefield about 1815. [Some data supplied by Lucille Moore, including records from the J. Hervey Smith Bible.]
Children, all births recorded in Newfield [VR], some born elsewhere:
i. Eliphalet, b. 26 Feb 1792; d. in Newfield, 19 Nov 1798 [VR]
ii. Ephraim G., b. in N.H. [census] 31 Aug 1793; d. 1881; m. Susanna Burbank
iii. Daniel, b. 3 Jan 1795; prob "of Wakefield," m. int. 25 Nov 1816 [Shap. VR], Amelia Fall of Shapleigh and/or m. in Newfield 12 July 1818 [VR] Lydia Perkins of Newfield.
iv. Ebenezer, b. 19 July 1796; d. in Newfield 23 June 1799 [VR]
v. Joseph, b. 12 Sep 1797; d. in Newfield 14 Nov 1798 [VR]
vi. Ebenezer Crummet, b. 9 Sep 1799
vii. Hannah, b. 3 Feb 1801; d. 6 June 1883; m. Alpheus Nutter, son of Abner
viii. Mary, b. 25 Nov 1802
ix. Nabby, b. 7 Jan 1805; d. in Newfield 23 Jan 1805 [VR]
x. Joseph, b. 11 Feb 1806; d. 19 Nov 1873 [Wkfld. g.s.]; m. Mary, b. in Mass. ca. 1808; d. 5 May 1874 [g.s]

Research Report #127884 from the NEHGS on October 30, 2003

"... Randolph was born a Smith, about 1818. Rosette, wife of Edwin E. Lord and Stephen E. Towle, was born about 1843, some 25 years later, the daughter of Alpheus Nutter and Hannah Smith. There is evidence that Randolph and Rosette were siblings.

We began by reviewing later records for Rosette:

Maine Vital Records, 1892-1907. Marriages.

Stephen E. Towle of Parsonsfield, Me., 41, millman, born Effingham, N.H., 2nd marriage, widowed, and Rosette S. Lord of Newfield, Me., 53, housewife, born Wakefield, N.H., 2nd marriage, widowed, married Parsonsfield, Me, 29 Dec 1895 by John Bennett of Parsonsfield, Me., Justice of the Peace. Groom's parents: Stephen Towle of Effingham, N.H., farmer, born Effingham, N.H., and Francis [sic] J. Egcomb [sic] of Effingham, N.H., farmer, born Wakefield, N.H., and Hannah Smith of Wakefield, N.H., housewife, born Wakefield, N.H. Reported from Newfield, Me.

Maine Vital Records, 1908-1922. Deaths.

Rosette S. Towle died Newfield, Me., 9 July 1912, aged 69 yrs., 11 mos. Married; wife of Stephen Towle. Housewife. Cause of death: Round ulcer of stomach. Born Wakefield, N.H. Parents: Alpheus Nutter, farmer, born Wakefield, N.H., and Hannah Smith, born Wakefield, N.H. Buried Parsonsfield, Me. C.E. Libby of Newfield, Me., undertaker. Reported from Newfield, Me.

We then turned to the recent Nutter genealogy book, and quickly located the Alpheus Nutter family. Photocopies of the relevant pages are enclosed. It looks quite possible that Randolph was an illegitimate child of Hannah Smith, born before her marriage to Alpheus Nutter. Keep in mind that he used the name Smith, and that Rosette is supposed to be his sister, and that he had a brother (name unknown) in East Wakefield, N.H. This latter was probably a half-brother.

We then attempted to find Hannah Smith's parentage. There is no record of the marriage of Alpheus Nutter and Hannah Smith in New Hampshire Vital Records, which is not surprising as the records are very incomplete at that time. There was also no record of the death of Alpheus Nutter or Hannah (Smith) Nutter in the statewide vital records.

Seeing that Hannah was supposedly born about 1801 in Wakefield, we searched for Smith families in Wakefield. There was only one in 1810, that of Aaron Smith (see enclosed copy). In 1840 an Aaron B. Smith was living in Effingham, next town to Wakefield (see enclosed copy). He was gone by 1850.

We also checked for census records of Alpheus Nutter and family. In 1880, he and Hannah were still living in Wakefield (see copy enclosed), but gone by 1900.

And lastly, we looked for the Edwin E. Lord family in 1870, and found him and Rosette, along with their daughters Adell L. [otherwise called Lillian A.], and Minnie F., and Edwin's mother, Eunice H. Lord (see copy enclosed)."

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