The very basics of Ingram MOODIE - Scot POW 1650
This is just the absolute bare basics of Ingram Moodie and what we have learned so far. Due to the fact that Ingram was a Scottish POW it is doubtful than anymore records will ever be found for him as the Scots were not very well thought of by the English in the early colonial days. They were after all prisoners of war.
Chronology of Ingram Moodie (Engram Moody) Scot POW
First mentioned on Moody board March 9, 2000 msg. # 1517
Second mentioned on Jan. 4, 2004 msg. # 4951
Mentioned again Feb. 11, 2004 msg. # 5031
Feb. 17, 2004 msg. # 5048
Feb. 22, 2004 msg. # 5073 reply
Feb. 24, 2004 msg. # 5076
Several replies and posts to these messages and then later in this same year (2004), several others jumped in on the bandwagon and started researching this too.
While I am certain that others before myself have researched Ingram Moodie the Scot POW, what I could not find despite my efforts was one shred of evidence to support my theory that Ingram might ~possibly~ be the father of Clement Moody of Exeter, NH.In Jan. 2004 when I started the research on Ingram Moodie, there was nothing online to show that anyone prior to me had done work on this idea.
Research through Heritage Quest, the NEHGS as well as Saugus Ironworks the Scots Charitable Society (SCS), The American Genealogist (TAG) etc., revealed nothing that anyone had come up with this idea before me.
That however doesn't mean I am the sole person ever to have thought this up, just perhaps the first one to bring it out into the open for public debate.
The information below is what I have found from the following Sources:
Saugus Ironworks
NEHGS and the Register
Scots Charitable Society
The American Genealogist
Essex Quarterly
Essex County, MA Court records
Essex Co., MA VR's
Phillips Library
Peabody Essex Museum
George Darling collection from the NEHGS
Darling Family Assoc.
Genealogy and Family History of the Descendants of John Clarke of Wenham, Massachusetts and Exeter, New Hampshire compiled by Marlene Hinkley publ.1968.
And the help of Rod Moody for his wonderful research in the very beginning of this quest whom without his connections and knowledge, some of this would never have been quite as complete. Thank You.
Also the help of numerous others that are too countless to name individually, but you certainly know who you are.
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Jan. 2004 - present
Ingram Moodie - the Scot POW
Born c1619 perhaps Forfar, Dundee, Aberdeen, Edinburgh or Glasgowareas of Scotland
m. c1658 prob. Lynn, MA
d. aft. Oct. 9, 1693 prob. at Lynn, Essex Co., MA
wife surname possibly "Clement".
Most assuredly Ingram had a wife and family back home in Scotland. All efforts by this author to establish his birth or any family connections in Scotland have been unsuccessful, despite the numerous efforts of myself and others.
On Sept. 3, 1650 when the Battle at Dunbar, Scotland was fought on the rain soaked grounds at the foot of Doon Hill, the Scots, tired, wet and weak from lack of food, were overtaken by Oliver Cromwell's men.This defeat had to be a devastating blow for the proud and brave Scotsmen.Cromwell then marched the worn out Scottish prisoners from Dunbar to Durham, England where they were imprisoned in the Durham Cathedral during the cold winter months of the latter part of 1650.Many of the men died on the long march to Durham, many more died in their makeshift prison that winter.
In an effort to stay warm inside the cold stone walls of the cathedral, the prisoners tore out everything they could use to build fires with to keep warm.The interior of the cathedral was destroyed by these prisoners, except for the grand golden clock.It has been thought that due to a carved Thistle atop the glorious structure it was spared as the Thistle is the national symbol of Scotland.
In November 1650, these prisoners were marched from Durham to London, England where they were boarded onto the ship "UNITY" and set sail for Boston harbor.They were now indentured servants of the English.Many of the men died during the passage across the Atlantic, but those who survived appear to have been employed by the Saugus Ironworks at Lynn, Essex Co., MA.
Two other men who sailed onboard the "Unity" with Ingram Moodie were John CLARKE from Aberdeen, Scotland and George DARLING perhaps from the Midlothian area of Scotland perhaps actually close to Dunbar itself.
From Essex Co., MA Depositions from 1636 to 1686-
Name: Moody, Engrome
Age: 16
Year: 1677
Vol:page: 6:361
(this is Ingram Moodie, Jr.)
This is the first mention we have that Ingram Moodie, Sr. had a son.In the record however his name is spelled "Engrome" Moodie.This is from a deposition along with George Darling on behalf of a John Blano/Blaney (various spellings).
What is great about the age of this son is tha his age in 1677 of 16 years old means his birth year was around c1661 which is Precisely the year many serious Clement Moody researches have attached to him as well.
This is the actual text extracted from the court record - (a copy sent to me by the researchers at the Phillips Library in Salem, MA from my research request placed in Oct. 2004.This research was conducted and a letter along with the record copy returned to me on Dec. 8, 2004).
Below is the extraction they found:
"Sworn March 3, 1677 before William Hathorne."
"George Darling, aged about sixty years and Engrome MOODIE aged about sixteen years, deposed that being neighbors of Mr. John Blano that they never heard him or the children complain of not having food and raiment, and said Blano provided as well for them as any other man thereabouts. He had several times bought quarters of mutton, butter, cheese and milk for them."
I believe the spelling of young "Engrome's" first name is due to a heavy Scottish accent when spoken. It is also my belief that "Ingram/Ingraham" may be a family name, as during my research in Scotland, I located several of the surname Ingram in Aberdeenshire.The spelling of this surname was "Ingram".Aberdeenshire is also the area of Scotland where fellow Scot POW John CLARKE supposedly came from too.
From Rod Moody's research - Dec. 2004-
"The elder Ingraham Moody, an old friend of George's from the Civil Wars in England, now aged 74, made an affidavit on Oct. 9 1693 that George Darling had told him some time after the final will was signed that he was not contented with it and would be contented if it were burned [Essex Probate #7168]. (info posted to GenForum (see msg. # list above)
**This is how we came up with the estimated birth year for Ingram of c1619.
Also from Rod Moody's mini research trip of Ingram Moodie - Dec. 2004-
"I did go to the Exeter Historical Soc. and talked briefly to the curator there and she said that there was an Excellent chance that considering the circumstances, that Engram Jr. was indeed Clement of Exeter. She also said that the chances were slim to none that we could find solid proof." - info posted to GenForum (see msg. # list above)
John Clarke also employed at Saugus Ironworks, went on to learn the blacksmith's trade while there.His marriage records are sketchy at best and Stephen F. Carlson's pamphlet "The Scots at Hammersmith" had this to say of John Clarke.
Born 1625 died 1686.In 1653 was taught to be a blacksmith by Samuel HARTE.
At that time John was living with carpenter Francis PERRY.
John later married Francis Perry's daughter (no name given), and in 1658 purchased 6 acres of former company land located on the east bank of the Saugus River…near Joseph Armitage.John Clarke took the Oath of Fidelity at Lynn, MA in 1677 and four years later married Susanna STORY by whom he had 2 children."
MY NOTE - I have that John Clarke took the Oath of Allegiance on Nov. 30th, 1677 at Exeter - John Clarke, Sr. and Jr. are on this list along with several other Scot POW's, however, Ingram Moodie is not.(NEHGR vol. 6:204)
Early Settlers of Essex and Old Norfolk (NEHGR Vol.6:247) listed John CLARK of Wenham as settling there in 1667.
From this information it is not possible to determine with any certainty that he had children with his first wife _____ PERRY.Also Marlene Hinkley's book "Genealogy and Family History of the Descendants of John Clarke of Wenham, MA and Exeter, NH" publ. 1968, from which I was cited incorrect information early on in my research of him from someone else, lists No wife or wives for John Clarke on page 1. She also states on page 2 that Sarah CLARKE was born in Wenham, MA and was a daughter of John Clarke ~may~ be the one who m. Clement Moody who himself was BORN in Wenham, MA and was Not of the Newbury, MA crowd. She also notes that part of John Clarke's land at Exeter was laid out to Clement Moodyin 1700.(to me this sounds like John Clarke and Clement Moody had a close relationship…and this is good support for John being Clement's father-in-law). Not to mention Anderson's TAG article which cites info to support that John's daughter Sarah did indeed marry Clement Moody.
More about John Clarke's possible wife and the erroneous info I was given early on.Elizabeth STEBBINS was the name of the wife of John Clarke of Wenham, MA that I was given early on in my research of his family. There was an Elizabeth Stebbins who married a John Clark in MA.She was a daughter of Rowland Stebbins.However this Rowland Stebbins moved from Roxbury, MA to Springfield, MA which is in the far western part of the state.
There were many of the Clarke/Clark name in that area. However the John Clarke of Wenham, MA to the best of my research powers, never went to Western MA and stayed in Essex Co., MA and then went to Exeter, Rockingham Co., New Hampshire.
Rowland STEBBINS and his wife Sarah both age 40 and 43 respectively came to MA on the ship "Francis" in April 1634 from England.Elizabeth Stebbins their daughter married John CLARK March 2, 1647 in the Springfield or Longmeadow area of MA.(NEHGR - vol. 38:157 Apr. issue)
So my conclusion to this erroneous info which I was given, is that Elizabeth Stebbins was Not the wife of the John CLARKE of Wenham, MA.
Barbara Baker who joined in on the research efforts of Ingram sometime in October 2004, recently did some research on John CLARKE's wives and found that he was married to one surnamed VERRIN (various spellings of this last name).This along with the info from Carlson's Scots at Hammersmith pamphlet are most likely the correct information or at least the information that can be found regarding John Clarke's wives.
These two men, John CLARKE and George DARLING appear to have had links to Ingram Moodie in one way or another.We may never be able to prove with any "paper in hand document" that Ingram was indeed Clement's father, but the supporting evidence sure does lead a path between these families.
It may be that young "Engrome" Moodie was actually Clement.Clement might have been his middle name and he chose to go by that name as a way to distinguish himself from his father of the same name.And perhaps in an effort to detach himself from the Scottish POW stigma that surely dogged his father his entire life in MA.No where is Ingram Moodie's Oath of Allegiance found.It may be somewhere in the yet undiscovered documents of Essex Co., MA but so far it has not yet appeared.
One other thought is that Clement might have been another son of Ingram's. Barbara Baker posed another possibility that Ingram's wife's maiden name may have been "Clement".
There is much more that could be added here, but for the sake of the space of this message board, if I add more it will be in Follow-Ups.
I wanted to touch the basics of the information surrounding the immediate basis for my thinking that Ingram Moodie could indeed be the Father of Clement Moody of Exeter, NH.
I would also like to add that it is likely that Clement Moody could not write his own name and since the spelling of MOODY was the most common one in Essex Co., MA due to the early emigrated Moody's from England to Newbury, MA, I feel that the spelling of his last name ending in the English 'y' rather than the more common Scottish spelling of MOODIE which Ingram seemed to use.
One last thing and then I will close. The first time Clement Moody's name appears on record in on Aug. 10, 1692 when he signs the Address of New Hampshire Inhabitants.
I find it ironic that in 1692 Clement was in Exeter, and that in Oct. 1693 Ingram Moodie was making a sworn statement (affadavit) on behalf of his good friend George DARLING.Earlier in the court records, it was the ~young~ "Engrome" who seemed to do the testifying along with George Darling on behalf of John Blano [sic](later seen as Blaney and other spellings).
I believe that young Engrome was probably in the employ of George Darling at his Tavern or Inn at his Coy Pond property which was on the border of Marblehead and Salem, MA, just over the border and northeast of Lynn, MA.
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Again, these are the bare bone basics of Ingram Moodie and my thoughts on his relation or connection to Clement Moody.
There are other Scot POW families that link to the Clement Moody line....Magoon (through John Clarke's son Jonathan...sister to Sarah Clark who m. Clement), Taylor, Gordon, Bean, etc. etc.
For now this give everyone a brief part to chew on or use for their research efforts.Perhaps for those interested in this research, the more eyes and hands we have digging around in the old records, maybe one day more will be discovered to support this theory or to once and for all lay it rest as untrue.
Melissa Moody - MOODY researcher-
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