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Re: Rev James Moorhouse m Grace Riley
Posted by: Mark E. Moorhouse Date: July 12, 2000 at 18:52:38
In Reply to: Re: Rev James Moorhouse m Grace Riley by alan moorhouse of 307

Hello Alan

Thanks for your enlightening description of Longholme Chapel. I concur heartily with you that your James m Mary Tomlinson belongs to Rev James but at present am having trouble with minor date discrepancies. That James gave his age as 47 in the 1841 census (so b. 1794 + or - one year). In 1861 census he was supposedly 60( in my notes) born at Whalley. There is no corresponding baptism in the Whalley register but at Padiham a James Moorhouse was born15 Jan 1801, bapt 1 Feb 1801 son of James Moorhouse who married Esther Waddington. Do you have either 1851 or 1871 census record to confirm or deny this? or have I mis-read 66 for 60 in the 1861 census? We are still related to this James who married Esther just a couple of generations further back.

Here is a family tree from our side from what seems to be our common progenitor.
Lancashire archivists assure me that the Moorhouses of the Burnley area are well documented as having been recorded under the name Morris for 100-140 years mainly due to ignorant clerics writing down the name phonetically then subsequent clerics copying the spelling error until it was finally discovered by the family and righted in the late 1700's. A word of caution though, not all Morris's were mis-spelt Moorhouses during that period.

Rev James Moorhouse/Morris (Son of John Morris, alehousekeeper of Pendleton)born 1764 at Whalley(bapt Padiham 11 Aug 1765). He(James Morris) married Grace Riley at Whalley by banns Dec 28 1781. Both were under age and required consent of parents(ex bishop's transcripts). Both were dwelling at High Houses (Heyhouses). The marriage was witnessed by George Moorhouse, older brother to James(note spelling) and John Slater.

As far as I can ascertain the possible children were as follows: All are accredited to a James Moorhouse at Padiham.

Ann bapt 27 Jan 1788 Padiham & Burnley Definitely James and Grace's child
Betty bapt Aug 23 1789 Padiham, Aug 25 Burnley Definitely James and Grace's child, died 23Sept 1789
Betty bapt Feb 28 1790 Padiham, died infant?
William bapt 23 May 1790 If James and Grace's then died infant
Betty bapt Feb 27 1791Padiham & Burnley Definitely James and Graces child.
James bapt Feb 5 1792 Strong likelihood of being James and Grace's son
John bapt July 29 1792 If James and Grace's then died infant
Enoch born 28 Feb 1796 bapt 14th Mar 1796 Padiham Definitely James and Grace's son.
William born 26 May 1798 bapt 29 July 1798 Definitely James and Grace's son.
John born c1800 Definitely James and Grace's son
maybe one other here

So this gives us Ann 1788, Betty 1790, James 1792, Enoch 1796, William 1798, John 1800 as possible adult children, with possibly several infant mortalities (which were extremely common at the time).

Remembering that Rev James described himself as a "fair down heathen" at this stage of his life, it is not surprising that baptisms were not high on the prority list and maybe late or a little out of order. Unfortunately there were three James Moorhouse's, cousins ,( Rev James, James Moorhouse married Ann Walmsley1799........and James Moorhouse married Esther Waddington 4th Jan 1790) of Padiham chapelry during this period and the Parish register makes no distinction in early 1790's.
Rev James' obituary intimates that seven children survived him so I feel there is still one missing. Does the Burnley Parish register contain any entries suitable? Probably born during the period of infancy of the Padiham Wesleyan Church (as was John whose baptism I cannot locate). I have hand written documents by John Moorhouse's son,James, connecting Rev James as his Grandfather and we have a miniature photo of the painting by M. Duval of Rev James with his obit pasted on the back as part of our family photo collection.

We descend from John born c1800. John was a mechanic/ engineer and lived in Bacup, and also at Newchurch in Rossendale. He married Betty Wilkinson about 1820. Their children are as follows:

Thomas Moorhouse b c 1821
Betty Moorhouse b c 1822
George Moorhouse b c 1827
James Moorhouse b. 30th Dec 1830
William Moorhouse b. c 1834
Wilson Moorhouse b. c 1838

Later in life (1850's) John remarried, after Betty died, to Ann Hardman (nee Wilson) who was born in Chester.

James, my great grandfather, started work in the Cotton factories. Apparently he was influenced by his Grandfather Rev James and took up the Cloth in the Wesleyan church. In the 1860's he emigrated to New Zealand and finally settled in Nelson, NZ, where he married an Alice Moorhouse (from Halifax Moorhouses).He served as the Wesleyan minister for the city of Nelson from 1860-61 after which he served as a lay preacher and City Councillor. Their Children were:

William Moorhouse b. 1875
un-named female b.1877 died infant
Thomas Wilson Moorhouse b 1878
Charlotte Moorhouse b 1883 died infant
James Albert Moorhouse b 1884 died child.
Alice Moorhouse b.1886

Faye's husband is the son of William Moorhouse
My grandfather is Thomas Wilson Moorhouse

Cheers Cousin Mark


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