Starting Sept. 30, 2014, Genealogy.com will be making a big change. GenForum message boards, Family Tree Maker homepages, and the most popular articles will be preserved in a read-only format, while several other features will no longer be available, including member subscriptions and the Shop.
 
Learn more


Chat | Daily Search | My GenForum | Community Standards | Terms of Service
Jump to Forum
Home: Surnames: Murtagh Family Genealogy Forum

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

Re: Murtaghs in New York City
Posted by: Reinhart Char (ID *****2588) Date: August 21, 2006 at 20:52:11
In Reply to: Bernard, Garrett and James Murtagh, New York City by Kirk Jenkins of 495

You might want to take a look at this and see if this was followed in your family.

I was able to find siblings of my great grandfather Edward Sheridan by finding other Sheridans who had also named their first born sons Philip Sheridan.

My GGF Edward Sheridan named his first born Philip Sheridan.

Then, I found a Patrick Sheridan and a Philip Sheridan who named their first born sons Philip Sheridan.

Using this naming system, I was able to connect with my Sheridan relatives



OLD IRISH NAMING SYSTEM


Sons

1st son was named after the father's father

2nd son was named after the mother's father

3rd son was named after the father

4th son was named after the father's eldest brother

5th son was named after the mother's eldest brother

Daughters

1st daughter was named after the mother's mother

2nd daughter was named after the father's mother

3rd daughter was named after the mother

4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister

5th daughter was named after the father's eldest sister

If the father remarries after his first wife dies, the first daughter born to this new marriage is often named after the deceased wife, and includes her whole name.

If a child dies young then their name is then used for the next child of the same sex, thereby keeping alive the name of the relative who they are ‘named for’



http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/old_irish_naming_patterns.htm



I wonder if John or William Murtagh was born first.

In the Irish Immigrants: New York Port Arrival Records, 1846-1851, I found:

Name: Murtagh, Bernd.
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Embarkation: Liverpool
Ship: Atalanta
Occupation: stone cutter
Passengers: 219
Residence: Unknown
Native Country: Ireland
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 13 May 1850

Name: Murtagh, Ann
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Embarkation: Liverpool
Ship: Atalanta
Occupation: stone cutter
Passengers: 219
Residence: Unknown
Native Country: Ireland
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 13 May 1850

Name: Murtagh, Ann
Age: 2
Gender: Female
Embarkation: Liverpool
Ship: Atalanta
Occupation: child
Passengers: 219
Residence: Unknown
Native Country: Ireland
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 13 May 1850

Name: Murtagh, Jno.
Age: 9 months
Gender: Male
Embarkation: Liverpool
Ship: Atalanta
Occupation: INF
Passengers: 219
Residence: Unknown
Native Country: Ireland
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 13 May 1850

Name: Murtagh, Wm.
Age: 9 months
Gender: Male
Embarkation: Liverpool
Ship: Atalanta
Occupation: INF
Passengers: 219
Residence: Unknown
Native Country: Ireland
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 13 May 1850


Name: Murtagh, Garrett
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Embarkation: Liverpool
Ship: Atalanta
Occupation: stone cutter
Passengers: 219
Residence: Unknown
Native Country: Ireland
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 13 May 1850



Notify Administrator about this message?
Followups:
No followups yet

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

http://genforum.genealogy.com/murtagh/messages/382.html
Search this forum:

Search all of GenForum:

Proximity matching
Add this forum to My GenForum Link to GenForum
Add Forum
Home |  Help |  About Us |  Site Index |  Jobs |  PRIVACY |  Affiliate
© 2007 The Generations Network