Are you just posting the information or are you looking for ties. I have William Pagel with the same dates, whose father is John David Pagel (1851)-(10-10-1941) who was born in New York. His wife was Mathilda Grimm. John's parents were Christian Pagel and Louise Schultz. I have more information about the passenger list coming from Germany and more dates if you are interested. Just reply.
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