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Andrew, thank you very much for the information you detailed in your message, you obviuosly know a great deal more about your family history than I know about mine. What a coincedence you also having a Manchester connection, what I do know about my family history is that the place they settled when they arrived from Italy was an inner suburb of manachester called "Ancoates" this was in some way like a little Italy in the early to mid 20th century. My father use to tell me many stories about Ancoates and all the Italian families, Carlo Santora comes to mind, he played for Man Utd, in the late 60s, my father new his father. The Icecream connection is also valid, some of our cousins had a small Ice cream palour in Ancoates in the early 1900s, but I do remember also that a family called "Pandolfo" ran a much bigger business for many years, including a shop and vans, the father of the Pandolfo family was called Tony and he was a very famous figure in Manchester. It makes me wonder if there is some connection between our families, I know that when I was growing up in Manachester there were only a few Pandolfi's in the whole area and they were all related to our family. The biggest problem I have is that my father was almost 60 years old when i was born in 1960, this made it very difficult because his parents were a long time dead, and only his sister "Mimi" was alive when I arrived. My older brothers and sister used to stay sometime with a relative in London, I only new this lady has Aunty Gena, I also remember meeting my uncle from Canada when I was about 10 years old, his name was Pip. My father had a brother named Bernard, I know he was married and had several children but I have no idea where all these kids ended up. I will try and get some better information next time I phone my sister in Manchester, she is as keen as me to trace the history of the Pandolfi's, latter this year I plan to visit Manchester with my wife, then hopefully organise a short trip to Italy and see if I can trace any living relatives or just get a better understanding of the origins of our family. All the best for now and thanks once again.