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Re: Phillip Elliot/Mary Short
Posted by: Edwin Rodekohr (ID *****6916) Date: May 09, 2007 at 12:28:49
In Reply to: Re: Phillip Elliot/Mary Short by Ruth B. Juren of 253

Don't know if you are still around or are interested, but the information that you were given on the father of Mary Eliot as Philip was wrong. My research shows:

       Mary ELIOT was baptized on 11 March 1620/21 in Nazing, County Essex, England[1]. There is a conflict as to whom her father was. Some sources, as early as 1874[2], and more recent (1995)[3], state that she was the daughter of Bennet and Lettice E. (AGGAR) ELIOT of Widford, Country of Hertforshire and Nazing, sister of Philip, whereas other sources state that she was the daughter of Philip[4].
       Philip was licensed to marry Elizabeth Sybthorpe in 1624[5], three years after the baptism of Mary, which would indicate Mary was not his child, unless illegitimate, which would surly be mentioned. In Philip’s will, dated 21: 8 [Oct]: 1657, he states “. . . all my three dau. have equall [sic] shares therein,”[6]. His daughters were listed as Elizabeth, Sarah and Lydia[7]. I will accept that Mary is the daughter of Bennett.
       On 3 April 1635, Marah (Mary), age 13, emigrated from London to New England on the Hopewell. Other passengers on the Hopewell were Elizabeth of Nazing, wife of Philip ELIOT; Lyddia [sic], age 4; Elizapeth [sic], age 8; Sara, age 6; and Philip, age 2, their children This probably led to the assumption that Mary was the daughter of Elizabeth and Philip. Also on the Hopewell was Giles PAYSON, brother of Edward[8], Mary’s future husband. Mary died 24 March 1697 at Roxbury[9].

1. New England Historic Genealogical Society, New EnglandAncestors.org, NEHGS Record, Vol.26, p. 145, April 1874, The Eliot Family of Nazing, Co. Essex, Eng., Bennett Elliot (“Benit Elyot”) Buried at Nazing, co. Essex, Nov. 21, 1621, Ch. Philip Eliot* - Elizabeth. Eldest son, mar. circa 21. Emigrated to New Engl’d ?? in 1736. Ch. Mary Eliot, Bapt in Nazing, March 11, 1620-1; – Ed. Payson of Nazing, bapt. Oct 3, 1613. He mar. first, Ann Parke
2. England Historical and Genealogical Register Vol. 28, 1874, p. 145: Mary Eliot bapt. in Nazing, March 11, 1620-1.
3. Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633. Vol. 1-3. Boston, MA, USA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995: Jacob Eliot, ASSOCIATIONS: Brother of Rev. JOHN ELIOT and Phillip Eliot of Roxbury, Francis Eliot of Braintree, Sarah (Eliot) Curtis, wife of WILLIAM CURTIS of Roxbury, Lydia (Eliot) Penniman, wife of JAMES PENNIMAN of Boston, and Mary (Eliot) Payson, wife of Edward Payson of Roxbury and Dorchester [ Eliot Gen 3-9].
4. Savage, James, A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England, Baltimore Genealogical Publishing C0., Inc., Boston, 1860-1862: VOLUME III. p. 372: PAYSON, EDWARD, Roxbury, freem. 13 May 1640, m. 20 Aug. 1640, Ann Parke, perhaps sis. of William, and she d. 10 Sept. of the yr. foll. hav. b. Mary, 8 days bef. who prob. d. young. he m. 1 Jan. 1642, Mary Eliot, d. I presume, of Philip, had John, b. 11, bapt. 18 June
5. Pope, Charles Henry, The Pioneers of Massachusetts, A Descriptive List, Drawn from Records of the Colonies, Towns and Churches, and other Contemporaneous Documents (1900, Boston). Ref. US0292 ISBN: 1-933828-45-5: Additions and Corrections 1902, p. 168b ELIOT, etc. " Philip llliott, of Nasing, co., Essex, husbandman, bachelor, aged about 22, and Elizabeth Sybthorpe, spinster, maiden, aged about 23, daughter of Robert Sybthorpe, deceased," were licensed to marry by the bishop of London Oct. 20, 1624, her widowed mother consenting.
6. New England Historic Genealogical Society Register Vol. 8, July 1854, p. 281: Abstracts of Early Wills. Phillip Elliot, of Roxbury – Will made 21: 8: 1657. New England Historic Genealogical Society Register Vol. 8, July 1854, p. 281: Abstracts of Early Wills. Phillip Elliot, of Roxbury – Will made 21: 8: 1657. All my debts to be in the first place payd. To testify my love to Christ I give unto the Treasury of the Church of Roxbury where I haue in my poore measure found Christ, 5L, to be payd within two years after my decease. Whereas my sonne Aldis oweth me L5, vpon a Late bargaine, my will is, yt his dau. Sarah Aldis haue that as a Legacy from me. I giue to my Grand Child Henry Whittington , L5. towards the bringing him vp in Learneing. I giue L5 to John Perry, when his time is out, pvded he liueth with, and is seruceable to my wife, but if my wife putt him away, my will is that he be not put to any against his will, and to whomesoeuer he b e put I give him L5. out of the value of his time, bein indifferently prized. My will is that L60 be payd my dau. Lydia, for her portion equall with her other sisters, this is to be payd in any thing saveing in moveables, as may fall to be their share at last; for my will is that all my three dau. have equall shares therein, as also in all the rest of my Estate after my wiues decease. I make my wife sole executrix , to whome I Comit the Residue of my Estate during her life. If my wife change her estate she shall haue her thirds of my Estate, and the rest devided to my Children. My will is that my wife doe nothing of moment without the aqpproation of my Brother John Elliott our Teacher, Elder Heath, Deacon Parks, John Rugles, senior, whome I make my overscers. If any difference arise amoung my Children & executrix about any division of my Estate, my will is that they shall not goe to Law, but be determined by three of my next kindred then surviueing; & if any should be troublesome (which God forbid) my will is yt such shall loose their part of my Estate about wch they so strive. I desire my Brother Deacon Parks, with the Elders, to pfect & finish such of my Christian accompts as are not yet pfected. Phillip Elliott. witness Griffine Graft, John Rugles, 11 Feb. 1657. Sworn by the witnesses to be the Last will of Phillip Elliott. before me. Jo: Endecott Govr.
7. Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633. Vol. 1-3. Boston, MA, USA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995. PHILIP ELIOT, Children: i ELIZABETH, bp. Nazeing 8 April 1627 (aged 8 in 1635 [Hotten 46]); m. by 1649 Richard Withington (eldest known child bp. Dorchester 1 July 1649 [DChR 160]); ii SARAH, bp. Nazeing 26 January 1628/9 (aged 6 in 1635 [Hotten 46]); m. Dedham 27 September 1650 John Aldis [DeVR 126]; iii LYDIA, bp. Nazeing 12 June 1631 (aged 4 in 1635 [Hotten 46]); m. by 1658 John Smith (eldest known child b. Dedham 18 October 1658 [DeVR 7]).
8. Through the Looking Glass, http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/ships/hopewell.htm : 3 April 1635, THEIS underwritten names are to be transported to New England, imbarqued in ye HOPEWELL, Mr. WM. BUNDICK, the pties have brought certificates from the Minister and Justices of the Peace, that they are no subsedy men. They have taken the oath of allegeance and supremacie.: Eliz Elliott 30, Marie Elliott 13,, Lyddia Elliott 4, Phillip Elliot 2, . . ., Sara Elliot 6, . . ., Elizapeth Elliot 8, Giles Payson 26.
9. Vital records of Roxbury, Massachusetts to the end of the year 1849. Vol. II. Roxbury deaths to the end of the year 1849. Salem, Mass.: Essex Institute, 1925-1926. p. 608, PASON (see also Payson) , Mary, w. Edward, Mar 24, 1697



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