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Penmans in Dunfermline 1841-61; to PA and Iowa
Posted by: Penny (ID *****2348) Date: January 18, 2007 at 11:03:13
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Some very kind people gave me the following information from Scottish records, finding a family that has eluded me for years:

1841 Census
Dunfermline Parish, Halbeath Village
David Penman, age 35, Mill Wright (b. ca 1806)
Jean Duncan, age 20 (b. ca 1821)
Jean Penman, age 8 (born ca 1833)
Helen Penman, age 4 (born ca 1837)
George Penman, age 2 (born ca 1839)


1851 census
Taken Civil parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife

David Penman age 48 born Dalgetty, Fife (occ. joiner) (born ca 1803)
Jean Duncan age 40 born Dunfermline, Fife (born ca 1811)
George Penman age 13 born Dunfermline, Fife (born ca 1838)
Jean age 18 born Dunfermline, Fife (born ca 1833)
Hellen age 15 born Dunfermline, Fife (born ca 1836)
William age 4 born Dunfermline, Fife (born ca 1847)
David age 3 born Dunfermline, Fife (born ca 1846)
Sarah (under a year) born Dunfermline, Fife (born ca 1851)


1861 census
Taken Registration district: Dunfermline Landward
Civil parish: Dunfermline Landward

David Penman age 56 (occ. wright) (born ca 1805)
Jean age 50 (born ca 1811)
David age 14 (occ. pit worker) (born ca 1847)
Sarah age 11 (born ca 1850)
Mary age 8 born Dunfermline, Fifeshire (born ca 1853)
Alexander age 4 born Ballingry Parish, Fifeshire (born ca 1857)


Parish of Ballingry, County of Fife, 1856 - Birth record:

Alexander Penman, b. 02 Oct 1856 at 4 o’clock p.m. in Lumphinnans.
Father; David Penman, Mill Wright
Mother: Jean Duncan
David Penman, Mill wright, Lumphinnans, father of the child (not present) – signature of David Penman on line below
Registered 21 Oct in Ballingry

Previously, I had only confirmed 3 children of David and Jane from the death records of their children - David (b. 1847) and Sarah (b. 1849), and from a will of George Penman in Monroe county, Iowa that named his niece, Sarah Jane Duncan McLaughlin, daugther of Sarah (1849).

Alexander from the above census may have been the same who m. Caherine Ellen Barnett on 02 Feb 1878 in Mahaska county, Iowa.

The 1880 census for Des Moines, Mahaska county, Iowa:
David Penman, age 77, Carpenter (b. ca 1803), Scotland
Jane Penman, age 69, wife (b. ca 1811), Scotland
George Penman, age 18, Grandson, Coal Miner, b. Scotland (b. ca 1862).

A Jane Penman died in Mahaska county, Iowa 24 Aug 1880, 69 years, 6 mo's 15 days (born ca 1811), and is buried in Eddyville Cemetery.

With the census information and Jane's burial record, I thought I had it all figured out. However, there is research on the Penmans that found the following:

David Penman, born 17 Mar 1803, Redrow, Bpt. Cockpen Parish, Midlothian 17 Apr 1803, son of John Penman and Violet Ross. Other children were Alison, James, Thomas and John, chirstened in Cockpen, Newbattle, and Lasswade (this info is in LDS records).

Then a marriage record: David Penman m. Jane Hall 28 Oct 1829 Clackmannan. The research report infers Jane Hall as the Jane who is listed in the 1880 Mahaska county, Iowa census, and the Jane who is buried in Eddyville Cemetery. I had assumed it was Jane Duncan.

No children wered found for David Penman and Jane Hall, nor were census records found in Scotland.

Then there is the bible record of the Morgan family: Mrs. Jane penman, d. 27 Aug 1880 at age 68. A Mary Penman, b. 14 Apr 1853 in Scotland, married William C. Morgan 21 Jan 1879. They lived in Mahaska county Iowa in 1880. This would appear to be the Mary listed in the 1861 census for Dunfermline, daughter of David and Jane Duncan, though the report for David and Jane Hall may indicate otherwise.

The dilemma. Were there two David Penmans, one who married Jane Hall and one who married Jane Duncan; or was David married twice?

Is the David Penman, son of John and Violet Ross, the same David who married Jane Hall?

Is the Jane Penman who died in 1880, buried in Eddyville cemetery, of the Morgan bible, Jane Hall or Jane Duncan?

Where is the record or census for David Penman and Jane Hall in Scotland from 1830? A lovely thing about finding the Scottish census is seeing the maiden name of the wife listed - a huge bonus.

I would appreciate any help untangling this one - I thought at first it would be easy, once I'd found the census; now it seems to be more of a mystery.



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