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Geoffrey .... Just found your post so don't know if you are still looking. I am researching this same family of James Penman and Isabella Paterson. The following is my list of their children - Janet b. abt 1832, James b. abt 1834, Jean b. abt 1836, William b. abt 1839, Elizabeth b. abt 1840, Crawford b. abt 1844, George b. abt 1846, Isabella b. abt 1852, Alexander b. abt 1854. Janet and James were born in Dollar, Clackmannan and the rest were all born in New Monkland, Lanarkshire. I do have some more info on each of these except for James - I know he and his family also came to Australia (Temora)and he was involved in a large gold find there. I think they then moved to New Zealand - I am currently trying to follow this up at the moment. Like you my husband also descends from George Penman.