Re: Pepins with ANY Indian ancestry?
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Re: Pepins with ANY Indian ancestry?
1/16/02
Jackie,
Though I'm not 100% certain on this, have you looked at Agathe ROCHE dit LaLancette's ancestry?I've looked through Tanguay at the variations on ROCHE: DE LA ROCHE, LA ROCHE, and LALANCETTE.
Under LALANCETTE, besides the usual list of variations that follow most surname listings in the Tanguay (Bonnelle, Carles, Claveau, Dubois, Fabre, LeBreton, Marion, Scipion, and S?guin), there's a listing (Tome 5, p 97) for a surgeon (chirurgien) identified only as P. LALANCETTE, who was in Kamouraska 1756.P LALANCETTE *could* have had a Native or part-Native (M?tis) wife.
Another possible direction to look is a fellow named Pierre LAROCHE and wife Marie-Madeleine COCHON dit Dupont.There is no marriage date shown for them, but their eldest son, Pierre-Amable, was baptised 6 Oct 1738 in Sorel.A younger daughter of this same family is named Marie-Agathe.I'm thinking that it is at least *possible* that, had Pierre-Amable grown up to marry, he *might* have had a daughter who he might have named Agathe, and the mother of that daughter certainly could have been Native or M?tisse.
Look in directions with a conspicuous *lack* of info.
I'm looking at my 4th great grandparents, Antoine MAY and Madeleine LAJEUNESSE and wondering where they came from, and how many of those unknown places of origin are NOT in Europe.
There were at least two PEPIN men who worked specifically for the Hudson's Bay Company -- perhaps three.Probably more.
Pierre PEPIN dit Lachance (Berthier, Qu?bec, 1818) from Antoine PEPIN dit Lachance's line, came west and married Suzanne GOODRICHE, daughter of an HBC man and Nancy of the Dalles, in 1844, on the Grand Ronde, in what's now the state of Oregon.They had 12 children.
Pierre's ancestors:
-Guillaume Pepin and Catherine Gendron
-Fran?ois Pepin and V?ronique Trudel
-Jean Pepin dit Lachance and Madeleine Fontaine, married 30 October 1703, St. John, Ile d'Orl?ans
-Antoine Pepin dit Lachance and Marie Testu, married not long after 11 November 1659, 11 Nov being the date of their marriage contract.
- Andr? PEPIN and Jeanne DE BOURVILLE, H?vre
Etienne PEPIN (Yamaska, Qu?bec, circa 1799), from Robert PEPIN's line, came west and enter to country marriages with at least two different Aboriginal women.One at Fort Vancouver on the Columbia in the 1820s and another one at Fort Langley, British Columbia, possibly two.Three known children.
Etienne's ancestors:
- Marguerite PEPIN and Michel MAY, Yamaska, Qu?bec
- Louis-Etienne P?PIN and Jeanne MACLURE, Qu?bec City
- Louis P?PIN and Marie Madeleine MARTIN dit Jolicouer dit Lachance, Qu?bec City
- Jean P?PIN and Marguerite MOREAU, Qu?bec City
- Robert P?PIN and Marie CR?TE, Qu?bec City
- Jean P?PIN and Jeanne DUMONT, S?ez, Normandy
The third is fellow name Antoine PEPIN, but the rest of the story is that this fellow had been a captive of some Native People further up the West Coast.He escaped/was ransomed, and immediately changed his name and went home to England.Still looking into that one; lotsa versions on this theme.
And all through the P?PIN collateral lines I see the word "voyageur", suggesting that not only did that man not live in the city, he was probably no taller than 5'6", and if he disappears from The Record, he probably Went West.
A "voyageur" was a woodsman, boatman, or guide employed by a fur company to transport goods and supplies between remote stations in Canada or the U.S. Northwest -- such as the Hudson's Bay Company, the North West Fur Company, the XYZ Fur Company, and John Jacob Astor's Pacific Fur Company, not to mention scores of free-trappers of European, Native/European, and non-European/Native ancestry.