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Re: Which James Permar?
Posted by: Georgiana Smithers (ID *****0593) Date: March 20, 2010 at 18:58:21
In Reply to: Which James Permar? by Phyllis Permar of 71

The James who died in 1787 was the brother of William(my gt gt gt gt gt grandafther) who was born @1711.This James married Sarah Young possibly in Church Hill MD in 1739.(I am allowing for the marriage date subject to any error, that's why I say possibly)I've been looking for the 4 boys of this marriage.Another member of the board has found some records for them in Kent County Delaware which makes sense as it is right over the border from Queen Anne County MD.

In the early days Queen Anne and Caroline County were one. Queen Anne was split into Caroline in the late 18th C. and on some documents it took a while for this to be implimented.THe Permars had property in Talbot and Queen Anne County which later became Caroline County.

It is my opinion that the James Permar(my gt gt gt gt grandfather) who was married to Rachel was the son of William Permar born about 1710.He was named for his uncle the James who died in 1787.I think that William was a substitute for his son James in the Revolutionary War. You could do that back then, be a substitute for family who needed to work on the farm. There are all kinds of census records available for the family of James and Rachel. .And if you like, I can send you Rachel's will. They had a farm and 1 woman slave and Rachel managed the farm after her husband James died. Rachel died in 1824. There is no mention of the farm in the will, it is quite sad.There were 2 sons, Phillip and Henry.Henry was the older of the sons.He went off to Southeasten Pennsylvania where he had a farm and worked in 'speculation'.I would assume this means crop speculation as this occured in SE PA in the 1820's. There are records for it. Henry's farm was in Middletown Delaware County in SE. Pennsylvania.This son Henry had a more prosperous son also named Henry whose farm in now the prison farm of the Delaware Country prison. The stone house still stands and I have photos of the prison farm and the stone house. The other son was named Phillip.(my gt gt gt grandfather) He stayed with his mother Rachel in MD after Henry left for PA. Phillip married and had a daughter named Mary born in 1807.She is my gt gt grandmother. Phillip's wife must have died early. After the death of his mother Rachel in 1824 Phillip took his daughter and moved to Southeastern Pennsylvania near his brother.There he worked as a farm laboror on the farm of a landowner named Palmer.Mary grew up in the Quaker Coummunity of Southeastern Pennsylvania.This is a very Quaker area settled by Welsh Quakers and these were all their friends. Mary married another farmer with the last name Henry. This Mary Permar Henry was my Gt Gt grandmother. I have photos of 2 of her daughter born 1838 and 1847, Elizabeth and Rachel. Rachel was my gt grandmother. She died of Breast Cancer in 1900.I have photos of her. Contact me if you need further information.

BY THE WAY, I am Jane.


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