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Re: Henry and Ellenor (more accurate dates)
Posted by: Tim Smith (ID *****8385) Date: November 13, 2004 at 22:20:16
In Reply to: Re: Henry and Ellenor (more accurate dates) by Judy White of 159

Hi Sabrina

I tracked harbert through the years starting with when he lived with his in-laws henry and eleanor pilkenton through the census' and this is an image of the 1850 census when they were in Illinois
<img src="http://www.catfishing.tv/pics/henry.jpg">
if the picture doesn't show up it's at
http://www.catfishing.tv/pics/henry.jpg

from there they moved to missouri as a family I believe where they settled as two of harbirt's and gemima's kids were born in missouri before they moved to cole, sebastian, arkansas. the 1860 census has harbirt and gemima living in cole arkansas and also the 1870 census ... I think due to illiteracy they didn't know how to spell their names as they're spelled different in every instance where it's recorded by census takers and land documents ... harbirt's name is spelled several different ways harbirt, harvit, harbert, and herbert and so is gemima's ... her name is gemima in two documents but then in 1870 her name is jennie anna in the 1870 cole sebastian county arkansas census and then something happened to harbirt between 1870 and 1880 cause jemima is then listed as head of household and moved to throckmorton county texas by 1880 census where her kid's names are different there as well ... dula in that one is called dooley and then dalla in the 1870 census but when he and his new wife moved to oklahoma it was always dula in the census documents and also written that way on the head stone. I realize I'm getting off the pilkenton track here but I've studied it quite a bit and my aunt judy white and I found dula's parents in wichita texas so I studied their movements like this also and I think the move from arkansas to texas was due to dula's wife's parent's travels cause dula's wife's dad was francis scott and he and his brother moved from georgia to texas from the 1850 to the 1860 census but then francis up and moved to hickman arkansas in 1870 census and then back in wichita by 1880 and I think that due to these travels they picked up gemima and kids or they fell in with the wagon train headed to texas cause they all ended up back around wichita texas where dula richardson and elizabeth scott were married ... so now that I've got you confused real good I'll go back to where harbirt was with the pilkentons and married to henry pilkenton's oldest daughter gemima ... they were caught on the 1850 census and were in illinois ... all evidence shows that they came from tennessee from 1840 or so but I haven't checked back that far yet and don't have access to the census reports at this time but will before too long and I'll dig further into that but anyhow ... from tennessee or wherever they're in illinois in 1850 but then by 1860 the census has harbirt and gemima living in cole, sebastian, arkansas with two kids that were born in missouri so I think that's where they all went from illinois and I think the pilkentons settled in lawrence county and harbirt and gemima was with them for a time (long enough to have two kids in missouri) before moving and settling in arkansas ... the dates on the census will tell you about when all the kids were born and it's earlier than previously stated on this thread ... has henry born right at 1802 or 1803 ... I'll let you know when I find out more


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