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Re: Fatima Ross
Posted by: Tammy Nicholas (ID *****6736) Date: April 09, 2002 at 20:19:39
In Reply to: Re: Fatima Ross by Pamela Berlin of 863

Thank you for your reply. John Lewis Pogue was my greatgrandfather; Jacob Orin Pogue and Maud Florence Bailey were my grandparents; so you can see my great interest in this mystery. I am researching this because I am not convinced either way about who John Lewis Pogue's mother was. I am researching the Fatima Ross (as well as other names I have for her) story as it is the one passed down in the oral history of my family. It is my intent to search until I either prove or disprove the story, run out of time or find out who John Lewis Pogue's mother actually was, if not Fatima.
I knew of George Pogue's claims through family letters written when he was doing all his work. I do not have his research notes or sources so I cannot comment on whether he was right or wrong on any particular issue he chose to press with regard to his claim.
I have heard several issues raised that Fatima Ross was not Cherokee because....The most popular reason is that she doesn't show up on any Cherokee Rolls. The approximate dates I have for her possible life span is Abt.1810 to Abt.1837. The only official Rolls taken during her est. life span: "The Cherokee Emigration Roll of 1817-1835" The only Cherokee included on this roll were Cherokee emigrants planning to go to the Arkansas country; the purpose of this Roll was for the emigrants to relinquish claims to land on Cherokee Nation east of the Mississippi River. As no one has ever suggested Fatima went to Arkansas or owned Cherokee land in the Nation; I can think of no reason why she would be on that Roll even if she were Cherokee. The next Roll was the "Henderson Roll, 1835" this was intended as a final enumeration of Cherokee to be removed to the west. (Trail of Tears) HOWEVER, in the three years between 1835-1838 NO records have been found of Cherokee who were born, died before they left or along the way, also not included in the Henderson Roll were Cherokee who somehow avoided removal and never left. (estimated by the Cherokee at 4000) The next Roll taken was "The Mullay Roll of 1848" which of course is well after her estimated life span. (There were many later Rolls)
I have no idea if she existed or was Cherokee if she did exist; I hope to find that out through research. As to the argument of her many names; that would actually be a clue to her being Cherokee; as it was very common for Cherokee of that time frame to have several names.
I am aware of the many arguments both for and against the possible Fatima Ross connection, I am just trying to do research into my family history. I do not intend to include her as fact unless I locate sources to back it up.


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