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Re: Eugene Pradat Update
Posted by: Gene McLeod Date: December 15, 2001 at 04:58:42
In Reply to: Eugene Pradat by Gene McLeod of 14

I have updated my notes on Eugene Pradat. Trying to confirm that Eugene F. Pradat and Eugene C. Pradat are the same person. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Gene McLeod
mcleod@txucom.net


Census Tracking—Pradat

1850 Census Mississippi – Harrison County, Biloxi – Page 91 – dwelling 231

Pradat, Pierre              W M 65       home $30,000              France
       Elizabeth       W F 60                                   France
       John M.              W M 40                            France

Notes: - $30,000 makes Pierre a wealthy man. Living next door to the Green Oakes Hotel. Eugene and John B. are running the Hotel in 1860. Pierre is probably the owner.

1850 Census Mississippi – Harrison County, Biloxi – Green Oaks Hotel – 92– dwelling 232

Pradat, Eugene              W M 26              none                     LA
       Louisa C.       W F 22                                   Indiana
       Georgiana       W F 3                                   Miss
       Adolph              W M 6/12       none                     Miss
       John B.              W M 22                                   LA
       Louisa A.       W F 18                                   LA       
Laurie, John              W M 22                                   England
       Elizabeth       W F 18                                   LA.

Note: 1. Eugene, John B. and Louisa A. must be siblings due to the ages.
2. Eugene, John and Louisa were born in Louisiana.
3. In New Orleans there is a death record which reads as follows:

Laurie, John, Widow born Pradat 32 yrs F W 3/13/1865       Vol29 page 237

The DOB matches and Elizabeth is a Pradat. Could be a sister to Eugene and John?


1860 Mississippi – Harrison County – Biloxi – July 10, 1860 – page 377 – dwelling 73

Pradat, E.C.              W M 35       Inn Keeper $1000       LA
       Louisa              W F 30                                   Indiana
       Georgiana       W F 12                                   Miss
       Adolph              W M 10                            Miss
       Sarah              W F 8                                   Miss
       Eugene              W M 7                                   Miss
       Cora              W F 5                                   Miss
       Oscar              W M 2                                   Miss
Davis, A               M 25       Gardner              France
Marks, Alex               M 35       Porter                     France
Chevron, Michael        M 25       Cook                     France
?vain, William               M 24       Steward              Ireland

Notes: 1. Eugene is an Inn Keeper living in dwelling 73 and his brother John B. is also an Inn Keeper living in dwelling 71. Green Oaks Hotel In Biloxi, Mississippi.

1870 Census Louisiana, June 1870       New Orleans, La. Page 211, dwelling 129

Pradat, Eugene       W M 47       clerk in commissary       LA
       Louisa              W F 42              keeping house              Indiana
       Georgiana        W F 20              at home              Miss
       Cora              W F 11              at school              Miss
       Eugene              W M 16       at school              Miss
       Adolph              W M 18       at home              Miss
       Oscar              W M 10       at school              Miss
       Joseph              W M 8              at school              Miss
       Henry              W M 4              at home              LA
       Sidney               W M 1              at home              LA
Jackson, Ellen              B F 21              servant                     LA       

Notes: 1. Between 1860 and 1863 Eugene Pradat moved his family from Biloxi, Mississippi to New Orleans, Louisiana. We can narrow the time down because Rebella was born in New Orleans in 1863.
2. Rebella Pradat born November 12, 1863 (per birth records) does not show up on 1870 census.
3. Henry and Sidney are the only children of Eugene and Louisa born in New Orleans.



1880 Census Louisiana June 1, 1880 Ward 2 New Orleans, La. Dwelling 12
Living on Franklin Street

Pradet, E.C.              W M 56               Cotton Weigher              LA.       France       France
       Bella              W F 52              Wife Keeping House       LA.       France Indiana
       Aleck              W M 30       Son Clerk at Cotton       LA.       LA       LA
       Eugene              W M 26       Son Clerk at Cotton       LA.       LA       LA
       Oscar              W M 21       Son Clerk at Store       LA       LA       LA
       Joseph              W M 19       Son Clerk at Store       LA       LA       LA
       Bella              W F 16       Dau at school              LA       LA       LA
       Henry              W M 13              Son at school              LA       LA       LA
Broker, Sarah               W F 29              Dau at home              LA       LA       LA
       Viola              W F 10              Granddau at home       LA       LA       LA
       Edward              W M 6              Grandson at home       LA       LA       LA
       Frank              W M 9              Grandson at home       LA       LA       LA
Nicol, Georgiana       W F 32              Boarder                     Miss       LA       LA
       John              W M 32       Boarder        Drayman clerk LA       Scot       Scotland

Notes: 1. Eugene C. and John B. (brothers) are living next door to each other. John in dwelling 11 and E.C. in dwelling 12.
2. One puzzling problems is Eugene’s wife name. She is using Lousia on the 1850-1870 censuses and on the 1880 census she is using Bella. On the 1850-1870 censuses Louisa is born Indiana. On the 1880 census Bella is born in LA and mother born in Indiana. Keep in mind census takers were not well educated or trained and problems arose with language barriers. Mistakes are often made on the censuses. Could Bella be a nickname? Keep in mind she had a daughter named Rebella and Louisa’s maiden name is Ruble.
3. Bella (Rebella) born November 12, 1863 does not show up on the 1870 census but shows up on the 1880 census. DOB matches.
4. Sarah Broker, daughter of E.C., and her children are living with her father. Her husband Charles probably died.
5. Georgiana, daughter of E.C., DOB matches and she was born in Mississippi. She and her husband John Nicol are living with E.C.
6. On the1870 census Adolph age 18 born MS – on the 1880 census Aleck age 30 born LA – DOB matches but names different. Same person?
7. Sidney Pradat age 2 died July 7, 1871 per New Orleans death records vol 49, page 681 therefore, not listed on 1880 census.
8. On the 1870 census Eugene Jr, Adolph, Oscar and Joseph are born in Mississippi and on the 1880 census these children are born in LA. Error - census reporting.
9. Cora, daughter of E.C., listed on the 1870 but not on the 1880 census with her father. Cora married W.G. Tebualt and is living next door with her uncle John B. Pradat.
10. On the 1870 census Henry age 4 and on the 1880 census Henry age 13 is living with his father and mother.



1900 Census Louisiana
Pradat       Henry                      M Head Oct. 1868 31        Louisiana Living 2512 Freret St. N.O.
Rebecca              M Wife Dec 1874 25       Louisiana
Henry E.              M Son       July 1897 02       “
Christine              F Dau       Oct 1894 05 “
John                     M Son       July 1895 04 “ (John Henry Baptiste Pradat)
Eugene              M Son       Feb 1891 09 “

1860 Census Miss – Harrison County – Biloxi – July 10, 1860 – Page 377 – dwelling 71

Pradat, J. B.              W M 30       Inn Keeper $1000       LA
Louisa              W F 27                                    LA

Note: Brother to E.C.


1880 Census Louisiana       June 1, 1880 Ward 2, New Orleans, La. Dwelling 11

Pradet, J.B.              W M 49              head cotton weigher       LA       France       France
       Louisia              W F 38              Wife Keeping house       LA       San Domingo New York
Hugo, Peter H.              W M 55       Boarder Clerk              LA.       France       France
Tebault, W.G.              W M 26       Furniture Dealer       LA       SC       Virginia
       Cora              W F 24              Wife Keeping house       LA       Miss       Miss
       Eugene              W F 3 ˝       son                     LA       Miss       Miss
       William              W M 2              Dau(?)                     LA       LA       LA
       Etta              W F 1              Dau                     Same
White, Ross              B M 50              Servant                     Virginia VA       VA              
       Clara              B F 15              Servant                     LA       VA       VA

Note: 1. J.B. living in dwelling 11and his brother E.C. living next door in dwelling 12. Cora Pradat Tebault and her family are living with her uncle John. It appears the J.B. and Louisa did not have any children.
2. Places of birth for Cora does not agree with 1860 censes in Mississippi. But note that the census-taker has Cora being born in LA and listed under Eugene Tebault age 3 ˝ , Cora’s son, as her being born in Mississippi. Note this common error.       

Comments:
In 1850 in Biloxi, Mississippi living with Eugene is John B. and Louisa A. Pradat.
In 1860 in Biloxi, Mississippi Eugene is living in dwelling 71 and John B.
In 1880 in New Orleans, Eugene is living in dwelling 12 and John B. is living next door in dwelling 11. Eugene and John B. must be siblings.

One of the most convincing arguments that Eugene C. Pradat from the census tracking above and Eugene F. Pradat from the World Family Tree (WFT) CD below are the same person is the names, DOB’s, and places of birth listed on the 1860 census in Mississippi are the same as the 1870 census in New Orleans, Louisiana. Also, Eugene Pradat or his children does not appear listed anywhere on the 1870 or 1880 Mississippi censuses.



One can note how the first names are handed down from one generation to another in the Pradat lineage. John Oscar Pradat, son of Eugene, named another son after his brother Sidney who died in 1871 at age two. Henry C. Pradat named one of his sons John B. after his uncle John B. and another son named Eugene after his father and a daughter Jenny Georgiana after his sister. There are several other cases one can site by observing the censuses.


The below information was taken from Broderbund WFT CD Volume 9, Edition 1, Family tree 0014.
With the two different sources the above and below information we can make a tie in. Eugene middle name in different on the censuses but in those days it’s not uncommon to have 3 or 4 names plus the surname.



1. JEAN1 PRADAT was born WFT Est 1734-1763 in Thiers, France, and died Aft 1821. He married MARIE COURBE WFT Est 1760-1802.

       Children of Jean Pradat and Marie Courbe are:
       i.       JEAN M.2 PRADAT, b. WFT Est 1764-1804; d. WFT Est 1777-1882.
2.       ii.       PIERRE PRADAT, b. Abt 1785, Thiers, France; d. December 29, 1854, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana.


Generation No. 2

2. PIERRE2 PRADAT (JEAN1) was born Abt 1785 in Thiers, France, and died December 29, 1854 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana. He married ELIZABETH IXELIN September 10, 1821 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, daughter of Francis Ixelin and Pierrette Bernard.

       Children of Pierre Pradat and Elizabeth Ixelin are:
       i.       ISABEL (CATHERINA)3 PRADAT, b. Abt 1822; d. WFT Est 1823-1916.
       ii.       LOUIS EARNEST PRADAT, b. Abt 1823, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana; d. August 13, 1896, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana; m. September 20, 1841, Mobile, Mobile County, Alabama.
       iii.       CAMILA AMELIA PRADAT, b. Abt 1824; d. WFT Est 1873-1919; m. July 25, 1868.
3.       iv.       EUGENE FRANCISCO PRADAT, b. Abt 1825, Louisiana; d. June 02, 1881.
       v.       PETER LUIS ADOLPHO PRADAT, b. Abt 1826; d. December 30, 1879.
       vi.       MATILDE CLARA PRADAT, b. Abt 1826; d. WFT Est 1865-1921; m. April 10, 1860.
       vii.       CATHERINE AMELIE PRADAT, b. Abt 1827; d. WFT Est 1828-1921.
       viii.       JEAN BAPTISTE PRADAT, b. Abt 1828; d. 1880.


Generation No. 3

3. EUGENE FRANCISCO3 PRADAT (PIERRE2, JEAN1) was born Abt 1825 in Louisiana, and died June 02, 1881. He married LOUISA C. RUBLE WFT Est 1844-1869.

       Children of Eugene Pradat and Louisa Ruble are:
       i.       GEORGIANA J.4 PRADAT, b. Abt 1848, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana; d. WFT Est 1878-1942; m. November 04, 1873, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana.
       ii.       ADOLPH L. PRADAT, b. Abt 1850; d. March 12, 1913.
       iii.       EUGENE CHRISTOPHER PRADAT, b. Abt 1851; d. May 09, 1929; m. January 07, 1893, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana.
       iv.       SARAH E. PRADAT, b. Abt 1852; d. WFT Est 1875-1946; m. May 17, 1869, Christ Episcopal Church, New Orleans, Louisiana.
       v.       CORA LOUISA PRADAT, b. June 29, 1856; d. WFT Est 1882-1950; m. January 05, 1876, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana.
       vi.       JOHN OSCAR PETER PRADAT, b. Abt 1858; d. WFT Est 1896-1949; m. February 09, 1891, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana.
       vii.       EMMA MARRIE PRADAT, b. July 08, 1860; d. October 02, 1860.
       viii.       JOSEPH EDWARD PRADAT, b. December 05, 1861; d. WFT Est 1862-1951.



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