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Leigh,This family isnt "mine" but I have this on file.I think it came from someone via Sen C G Primmer,104 leiberg St,Warnambool,Vic.3280.I also have the name Joy Howard,115Barringa St,Morningside,4170.Vic so that maybe where it came from.Isaac Primmmer,ag 20 marr Sarah hatten,dau ofHenry & mary(nee marshall) Hatten on Jan 20 1845 at parish church of St John in Wapping,district of Stepney,Co Middlesex(Outer London).This are is very close to the Thames & is now an industrial area.Last century it would have been one of the poorer areas of London.At the time of marr Isaac lived in Upper Gun Valley & sarah at Maidenhead Court.Rector John parry.C/E Wits William & harriet Gilskin.First child John henry was born 1846,then James was christened Nov 19 1847at FinsburySt,Thomas charterhouse.Dau sarah was chr apr 9 1852 & son Richard Jun 12 1853.Hannah born Jun1856.Is this the family.I have some more if you let me know.I cannot confirm itto be true but you can check it out.They migrated to Aust on the "balnaguith" as assisted immigrants.Passenger list No 123 shows:Isaac Primmmer,labourer,31,r w & to work on his own accord at Port Fairy,Vic.Sarah P 30 read,John H10,r& w,james 9,r & w,Harriet 2 not able to r& w(slow kid)Ship sailed Oct 3 1856 & arr Jan 17 1857.later that year Elizabeth was born, followed by William in 1861 & Ellen in 1864.Hope this helps.Lorraine