Re: QUIRINDONGO,1800'S SPAIN
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Re: QUIRINDONGO,1800'S SPAIN
john quirindongo 1/28/02
Many unsubstantiated theories abound about the origin of Kirindongo and all the other variations. Among them one (my favorite) from Richard Bond, whose roots are from StCroix, that a man called Kiri Ndongo, a Senegalese, was skillful at breaking in horses enough to have a locality named after him. Pretty far out! The story remains undocumented and only an idea put forth admittedly by inspiration. He insists that Ndongo is a Senegalese surname, a minor point which was misplaced in time since Africa adopted SURNAMES circa 1900 and generally Black Slaves in the New World adopted European Surnames of their owner-master. "Kir is a word with the meaning of "chief" in Arabic. Ndongo is a clan or family name in Senegal. (Also the name of a tribe in Angola) The ruling classes in Senegal have long been Islamic. At a time in history Senegal did a lot of (slave) trade with Curacao."
My internet search in Senegal:
http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/prov-m-baskblhttp://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/prov-m-baskbl
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My internet search in Angola. see:
http://kids.infoplease.com/ce5/CE033541.htmlhttp://kids.infoplease.com/ce5/CE033541.html
After much research on his part which shows dedication and good character Richard Bond stated:
"I misinterpreted Abou as a personal name when it refers to a geographic feature. After exchanging e-mails with you last I called the Netherlands Consulate here in the east and some random Kirindongos on Curacao. The Netherlands attache disputed the interpretation your son (sic) gave "kier" (In spite of 17 KIERindongo and 3 KIERindoongo in present day 1999 Curacao, a fact not mentioned at the time) but did not know what the right interpretation for Kirindongo (was.) The Kirindongo I spoke with (in Curacao) did not know either. Well the word kir in Arabic means king. Ndongo is a surname in Senegal and the name of a tribe in Angola. Senegal had Arabic speaking Ndongos, Angola did not. There were civil wars which resulted in POWs being sent into slavery. There were freed African property owners. If it weren't for the map of Curacao having all those Abous... There is a Brakkeput Abou and Brakkeput Ariba (in Curacao.) There are Montana and Salina Abous, there also a couple ____ Abaos."
A common mistake many people make and especially Blacks in particular is to give a surname to a person in Black Africa before 1875 when no surnames in Africa were in use. Surnames are a recent phenomena in most of the literate and illiterate world. Even Bismarck when unifying Germany in the mid 1800s decreed that all Jews and Gypsies get surnames.
Another WACKY theory alluded to previously by Richard Bond (and the most pseudo official) was put forth by an unnamed California worker, whose roots are in Holland, employed at the consulate of the Netherlands that the name was given to a Curacao locality "Kier En Donk" (clear in the dark in Dutch) where Whites as well as free Blacks went to serve time for minor infringements like stealing and alcoholism. Some people became known by the locality name from their chronic law breaking and they were called by the area name and the surname stuck. It was later corrupted by pidgin Papamiento to Kirindongo. KIRINDONGO ABOU (Lowland Sp. Abajo) a locality does exist today in Curacao.
No documentation was offered by all three parties.
1. The worker in the Netherlands Consul in California who made up the KIERENDONK theory and
2. The worker in "the East" Netherlands Consul who shot it down and
3. Mr. Bond with an African connection.
Slave REGISTER (no QUIRINDONGO or variation)
Timeline Curacao 1834-1863
see
http://candoo.com/genresources/nethantilles.htm#SRhttp://candoo.com/genresources/nethantilles.htm#SR
COMPLETE SLAVERY TIMELINE 1492-1900
see
http://candoo.com/genresources/historical.htmhttp://candoo.com/genresources/historical.htm
All three showed resourceful minds THAT BORDER ON URBAN LEGEND to come up with stories that apparently were made up or shot down on the spot. Interestingly enough, each gave a theory of inclusion. A Dutchman gave a theory about possible Dutch origin. Mr. Bond a Black man gave an African connection.Mr. Bond was the only one who later resorted to a more scientific approach pointing to a mulatto "negro Olandes" Pedro Guirindongo in an LDS DEATH CERTIFICATE entry.
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