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Re: Simon Ramirez
Posted by: carlos ramirez (ID *****5721) Date: November 18, 2002 at 14:36:58
In Reply to: Re: Simon Ramirez by Gracie Cox of 776

i am sorry i told you i thought jose antonio guillermo cuellar had more wives when i was reading my info before i posted the 1st respose it was late and the following listings were for juana de dios lopez's father also
a jose antonio and i mistaken his two wives at the late hour for jose antonio guillermo cullar's wives. lopez had listings at mier and cerralvo.
when i first did my scan of ramirez i remember it was quite confusing because in the early time period 1750 to
1820 i found 7 jose antonio ramirezes or variations of.
from what i have and i worked both with the land grants and the censuses i believe your jose antonio ramirez married to josepha cuellar was the son of jose thomas ramirez born 1796 at cerralvo and who's wife was maria thomasa rodriguez or bermudez. tomas is the only ramirez in the area registered born at cerralvo at the time period . the only one i have of all the listings.i found very interesting i know the dates are cutting it quite close he would be barely be 15 but it seems to have happened young marriage at that age at that time at least three other times in the tree. and there is another record for a Jose tomas ramirez born to joseph eugenio ramirez married to maria del refugio cuellar born 1752. jose eugenio ramirez was jose cristobal xptobal ramirez's son. maria del refugio cuellar seems to be one of several sisters or cousins who married in to i saw at least 4 neighboring families. the earliest cuellar land grants were joachim cuellar and jacinto cuellar. they are the sons of santiago cuellar .
i can look up the land grant web site and censuses web site and give them to you if you would like them.
this woud have made your jose antonio ramirez and his wife josepha cuellar second cousins with his gandmother and her grandfather having been brother and sister. i know it gets confusing but it goes back to the somewhat unique feature of early texas border geneaology but we are all so closely intermarried with allmost all of the 20 or so early settler families. we are all interrelated many times over.


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