The Antonio Ramirez Origial grantee of porcion 67 is not the same Antonio Ramirez, son of Cristobal Ramirez son who was married to Josefa Leal. Many of the trees on the internet have this Jose Antonio Ramirez as his son. Antonio Ramirez of Porcion 67 was born in abt 1716 and died in 1796. He was 4 years old when Cristobal Ramirez was born. (1712). I know that somewhere they are related but have not found the link that ties them. I ordered a record for Jose Gregorio Ramirez married to Maria Jacinta Vela Chapa(direct descendent) of my husband and son of JAR and Catarina Vela, and it shows the padrinos as being Miguel Ramirez and Tadea Pena.(brother to Cristobal) coincidence.??Could be but I say that this Antonio Ramirez married to Cataring Vela is the brother of Cristobal. I just cannot prove it yet. Any one out there that can help me prove this, please contact me asap. The dates coincides but it doesnt prove anything. Church records have been wrong.
Thanks, Elma Esparza Ramos
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