Joan - As it turns out my grandfather was originally from Ohio, so we're probably not talking about the same Ringer clan. I spoke with my mother and she remembers seeing an obituary for a Betsy Badger in Buffalo soem years ago. She also said that the Mormon Library in Salt Lake as a complete genealogy of the Ringers so you might be able to access some information about your family from there. Sorry I can't be of more help. Good luck. I hope you can find what you're looking for. Chris
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