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Re: Philip L Roper b.1818 Kentucky
Posted by: William Alexander Roper, Jr. (ID *****0344) Date: December 26, 2009 at 12:28:54
In Reply to: Philip L Roper b.1818 Kentucky by Shannon Foltz of 1881

Philip ROPER is first shown in the 1840 Census enumeration (shown as "Phillip") with age given as 20 to 29 (b abt 1811-1820) with a female (presumably wife Mary Ann) of similar age range as well as two (2) females age 0 to 4 (b abt 1836-1840) and one female age 5 to 9 (b abt 1831-1835). They are enumerated in Marshall County, AL.

The 1850 Census shows Philip ROPER residing in Blount Co., AL, at age 32, with wife Anna, age 31, and children Malinda, age 17, Nancy, age 14, Jane, age 9, Mary, age 7, Henry, age 6, and Martha, age 3. Philip and Anna are shown to have been born in TENNESSEE, but all of the children are shown to have been born in Alabama, implying that Philip ROPER was already in Alabama by 1833.

The 1860 Census shows Philip ROPER, at age 48, residing in Panola Co., TX. Anna is no longer in the household and is presumably deceased, probably abt 1859. Also shown in the household are: Mary ROPER, age 17, Henry ROPER, age 16, Martha ROPER, age 12, Charles ROPER, age 10, Anne E. ROPER, age 7, Albert ROPER, age 3, and Thomas ROPER, age 1. Philip is now shown to be born in Kentucky. Children Mary through Charles are shown to be born in Alabama, with Anne, Albert and Thomas born in Texas. Presumably, Philip brought his family to Texas between 1850 and 1853.

In 1870, Philip ROPER, at age 55, is shown to be residing in Lone Oak, Hunt Co., TX, with Anne, age 16, Albert, age 14, and a new child Amanda ROPER, age 3. It is unclear whether Amanda is a daughter or a granddaughter. Philip is shown to have been born in Tennessee.

In 1880, Philip L. ROPER, at age 65, is shown to be residing in Hopkins Co., TX, with wife Mary E. ROPER, age 32, son Albert, age 25, Albert's wife Jenny, age 17, daughter Ann E. BURGIS, age 25, and grandchildren William M., age 6, and Molly M., age 1. It is unclear from the record whether these children have the surname BURGIS or ROPER, though sequence and Jenny's age suggests that they are Ann's children (BURGIS). In 1880, Philip is shown to be born in Kentucky to parents both born in North Carolina.

In 1830, there are only FIVE (5) ROPER households residing within Alabama. (Philip ROPER's parents may very well have remained in Kentucky or Tennessee, returned to North Carolina, or migrated elsewhere by 1830.) These five ROPER households residing in AL are:

Mary ROPER, Madison Co., AL: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 3 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 = 11
Benj F. ROPER, Pickens Co., AL: 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 = 9
James ROPER, Lauderdale Co., AL: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 = 3
John M. ROPER, Lowndes Co., AL: 0 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 = 11
William M. ROPER, Madison Co., AL: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 -- 1 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 = 8

Mary ROPER seems to be age 60 to 69 (b abt 1761-1770) with a male age 30 to 39 (b abt 1791-1800) and a female age 20 to 29 (b abt 1801-1810). The male seems to be too old to be Philip, though this doesn't rule out the possibility that Philip could be Mary's son but living elsewhere. But Mary seems a little old to be still bearing children in 1818. Mary ROPER seems to have owned eight slaves, three male and five female.

Benj. F. ROPER seems to be age 50 to 59. There are two younger men in the household. One age 5 to 9 (b abt 1821-1825) seems to young to be Philip. The other, age 30 to 30 (b abt 1791-1800) seems too old to be Philip. Benj. F. ROPER is shown to have two male and two female slaves.

James ROPER seems to be a young man age 20 to 29 (b abt 1801-1910) with a young wife age 15 to 19 (b abt 1811-1815) and a female child age 0 to 4 (b abt 1826-1830). There is no male of Philip ROPER's age in this household.

John M. ROPER, of Lowndes Co., AL, seems to be age 30 to 39 (b abt 1791-1800) with a wife of similar age and five children all under age ten.

William M. ROPER, of Madison Co., AL, seems to be a young man of age 30 to 39 (b abt 1791-1800) with a wife of age 20 to 29 (b abt 1801-1810) and six slaves.

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IF Philip ROPER was residing in AL at the date of the 1830 Census enumeration, it would seem most likely that hewas residing within a household headed by other than a ROPER. More likely, he was probably still in his parent's household at age 22 in Tennessee or Kentucky.

There are eight ROPER households shown in the 1830 Census for Kentucky and eighteen ROPER or RAPER households shown in TN that year. I will take a look at these another time.

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Dr. L. David ROPER maintains a very extensive ROPER family database at http://www.roperld.com. You may find that he has already connected Philip to a prior generation.

Hopefully, the information posted above will be helpful to others seeking to sort out ROPER family connections.


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