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Hi Karen,
Marilyn had posted on the Co. Cork message board about your ancestors and I sent her a reply with information about records to research in the US.
However when I replied to her I thought you had some record source in the US which said they were born in Co. Cork and not just a surname and "clan" information you had obtained that the Donovan clan originated from Clonakilty Co. Cork.
We don't refer to families as clans in Ireland (that's basically in Scotland) although it's a phrase used by many in the US for their Irish born ancestors. The Irish septs origination places were from hundreds of years ago before the Anglo Norman Invasion of Ireland in 1169 but wouldn't be applicable for the time period you're referring to.
So here's the response I gave to Marilyn today but since you don't know if your ancestors were even born in Co. Cork I've changed several of the references to encompass all Ireland. Yiour surname of Donovan would be in just about any county in Ireland and there are 32 of them. Here's what I told Marilyn:
No there's no centralised index of births in Co. Cork for 1828 or any year before civil registration of births started in Ireland in 1864. There are no surviving census records before 1901 either.
Church parish records for Daniel and Mary Ellen's birthplaces in Co. Cork or whatever county they were born in Ireland that survive back to their birth years would be the possible sources for their baptismal records. Here's a link to the Roman Catholic parish maps in Co. Cork, click on each area and then the individual maps in each. Those will give you the years covered in the records and where the records can be searched:
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/co...
When you click on each map to see the years covered in the records etc. there's a further link on the left bottom to the placenames in the parish. Click on that lick and also on the civil parish names for each parish. You'll see the names of the towns and townlands in each.
Here are the links to each county in Ireland, click on the name of each county and then on the left side click on Roman Catholic records to see the Roman Catholic parish
maps for each:
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/index.htm
Co. Cork is the largest county in Ireland and has over 6,000 towns and townlands, there's a list of those at the Ireland Townland Database, just select Co. Cork from the drop down menu:
http://www.seanruad.com/
You can search each of the 32 counties in Ireland from the same drop down menu to see the names of the towns and townlands in each.
You not only need Daniel and Mary Ellen's names and dates of birth but you also need their parents names and birthplaces in Co. Cork or whatever county they were born in in Ireland. The difficulty with Irish names is that they're so common. Both Donovan/Donavan and Sullivan/O'Sullivan are extremely common surnames in the church parish records here and given names are also very commonplace. Those surnames are found not only in County Cork but in every other county in Ireland during the time period when your ancestors were born.
Many emigrants left from Co. Cork and people abroad often believe their ancestors were born in Co. Cork when in actuality they just sailed from Co. Cork.
There were no middle names during those years in Ireland. Middle names really didn't start being used in Ireland until later in the Twentieth Century. The middle name Kingston for Daniel's great grandson b 1918 could have been from the female members of the family.
Clonakilty Roman Catholic parish records go back to 1809 and are available for research at the National Library of Ireland on Kildare Street in Dublin:
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index....
The difficulty with you just coming to search those parish records is if that wasn't Daniel's birthplace there are hundreds of other parish registers they would have to search many of which don't go back far enough to include their baptismal records.
You'd really need to be sure of Daniel's birthplace from his civil and church records in the US as well as his children's. That's to be sure the Daniel Sullivan found in Ireland is actually your ancestor. The names of your ancestors, both the surnames and given names, are quite common in Ireland and there wouldn't have been just one Daniel Donovan or one Ellen Sullivan born in Ireland or County Cork in that year or any other year for that matter.
Here's a list of sources to research in the US to find out his birthplace in Co. Cork:
Their church marriage record. There may be some attestation in the record about each of their birthplaces in Ireland with information about their parish of baptism here. You'd need to contact the church in New York. Ships passenger records to New York are included in the Castle Garden website: http://www.castlegarden.org which is where emigrants landed in New York City (Manhattan) before Ellis Island opened in 1892 although there was no requirement that ships passenger records be maintained at that time.
More sources included:
Children's church baptismal records for each child. They may include parents birthplaces. Also children's obituaries that may include where their parents were born in Ireland. Also look for the baptismal records for the children who died and their church death records. There wouldn't be an obituary for them in all probability.
Daniel's US naturalisation records esp. his first papers or Declaration of Intent to become a citizen. The first papers contained more information than the final citizenship papers.
Church death record for Daniel as well as his obituary, tombstone and will. Many emigrants remembered family members in Ireland in their wills.
Depending on how long the family was in New York (City?) they may have had an account with the Emigrant Savings Bank a famous place where emigrants began to save there.
http://www.genexchange.com/esb/
http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Section...
If you have any other questions don't hesitate to post back.
Regards.
Eilis O'Hara
Ireland
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