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Re: David Sivyer - about 1830 from West Kent, England to Canada then to U.S.
Posted by: Holly Schuetz (ID *****1727) Date: March 04, 2009 at 16:45:20
In Reply to: Re: David Sivyer - about 1830 from West Kent, England to Canada then to U.S. by Laraine Clark of 143

HI Laraine,

I am so happy to meet another Sivyer cousin...

Yes it is the SAME David Sivyer. I have quite a bit of information on him. I would be more than happy to give you copies of his Civil War Pension papers that I acquired last summer. At first, when I ordered the Civil War pension papers, I must admit I wasn't sure if it was the same David Sivyer I was looking for. Well, it turned out it was indeed our David Sivyer. Well, it turned out he was married 3 times! The info is from the Civil War pension papers. He was married first to Philomene/Philomena (Philomena is the French spelling) Brunette. Then, secondly to a woman name Mary with no maiden name. The third time to Diana Matilda White.

I have a copy of the Sivyer genealogy compiled by Mae Bond Bertagnolli, "Genealogical Record of the Sivyer Family in the United States" Hats off to her for doing that. If it
weren't for her, we'd have searched in vain. Also, all of the parents and children's names are from the Sivyer Family Bible. Sadly, it is not in my possession. It belongs to one of the Bond descendents I think. I would be happy to make copies of the genealogy and send all of the info to you.

I have David Sivyer's death certificate and his 2nd wife's Dianna Matilda White's death certificate. I descend from the first wife, Philomene Brunette. One of her daughters, Sarah Jane "Jennie/Jeanette" Sivyer was my great, great grandmother.
David's death certificate says his father was George Sivyer, but mother's name unknown. He was born in March 20, 1824 in West Kent, England and died Aug 16, 1905 in Newberg, Oregon. He is buried in Friends Cemetery in Newberg, Oregon. Philomene Brunette was born in Kingston,
Ontario, Canada and died in Denver, Colorado. She was a seamstress. She worked in the St. Joseph's home for Orphans for many years. She is buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Denver, Colorado. I plan to go there in the near future because I used to live in Colorado Springs, CO for 5 months.
I found David & Philomene in the 1860 Census living in Kane, Illinois. One or 2 of their children were born in Kane, Illinois, then in 1870 they moved to Franklin, Linn, Iowa under the name of David Sibier (missspelled). Between 1864 - 1869, David was in the Civil War.
It appears that Philomene and David were separated in 1880 because Philomene was listed in the 1880 Trinidad, Colorado Census. Their divorce was finalized on June 1881 according to the Civil War pension papers. Together, they had 9 children. MY great, great grandmother was the 3rd child of 9 children. Only 3 of the 9 children were born in Canada, the rest lived in the United States. My great great grandmother's daughter, Fanchon Spelman was born in Trinidad, Colorado. So that makes sense. I always had a hunch that my great great, great grandmother lived there for awhile. Philomene was in the 1900 Latir, Tao, New Mexico with one of her other daughgters and son in law, Henry J. Young and Mary. It appears that she was probably visiting them for awhile. Because she went back to Colorado and died there in 1912.

David & his 3rd wife had 1 son together, Edwin Harrison Sivyer. He adopted Diana's daughter, Daisy. Daisy's father was John Henry Roberts. That is from the Civil War pension papers too.

If you would like copies of all of the info, my email is:
Schutzy2u@aol.com.

Francis Sivyer is not the father of David Sivyer. His death certificate says father's name was George Sivyer. But mother name unknown.
My hunch is that he probably came here with a brother or sister or possibly his father. I have yet to find George Sivyer in Canada. That is probably where David met Philomene. Philomene's ancestors came from France and then came to Canada and went from there. We have French ancestors. I have some info on them. But first, let me see if I can mail you copies of DAvid Sivyer, his pension papers and his children's families.

Holly






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