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James Edward South 1862-1904 Sullivan Co. TN
Posted by: Fredrick South (ID *****1980) Date: September 11, 2004 at 18:06:31
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I am looking for any reference to the parents of James.

1. JAMES EDWARD1 SOUTH was born December 23, 1862 in TN, and died April 06, 1904 in Bristol, TN. He married (1) MARY C. CRUMLEY October 16, 1881 in Sullivan County, TN, daughter of PHILLIP CRUMLEY and ELIZABETH STOPHEL. She was born Abt. 1867 in Sullivan County, TN, and died Bet. January 01, 1896 - January 08, 1897 in Sullivan County, TN. He married (2) SARAH LOUVENA MOORE January 08, 1897 in Sullivan County, TN, daughter of HENRY MOORE and MARY MOORE. She was born May 18, 1879 in VA - Date from Memorial Plate. 1900 census has her age 23 born 1877., and died June 13, 1964 in Bristol, TN - Date from Memorial Plate
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Notes for JAMES EDWARD SOUTH:
In "BRISTOL TENNESSEE/VIRGINIA A HISTORY - 1852-1900" by V.N. (Bud) Phillips, on page 145 is listed
James E. South as a carpenter that during the 4th quarter of the 19th century helped build Bristol.
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2/16/97 I talked with Ruby (wife of Hubert South, my Dad's uncle) and she said that James was a Preacher at
Woodlawn Babtist Church and that he also was an Insurance Salesman for Metropolitan Insurance Co. She does
not know if he was a carpenter. She said he was 42 years old when he died.
6/12/97 I talked with Dorothy Jones (Carrier) (my Dad's 1st cousin) today and she said that James was never a
Preacher. My Dad asked Hellen Moore (his 1st cousin) to check the church records and the results were negative.
I don't know where Ruby got her information. Dorothy said James was working for the Railroad when he was
killed. The story on James death is he was doing some work for the railroad and was crossing the tracks. There
were two trains moving in opposite directions. When the first one cleared he stepped into the second.
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6/13/97 At the Sullivan County Clerks Office in Blountville, I found both marriage records. James E. South and Mary C. Crumley was recorded Oct. 16, 1881 and license was issued for James E. South and Sarah L. Moore on Jan. 8, 1897 but never recorded. I also visited his grave site at the Paperville United Methodist Church Cemetery on Church Circle off the Paperville Road and Old Jonesborough Road. It had a flat stone with the following inscription: "JAMES E. SOUTH BORN DEC 23, 1855 DIED APR. 6, 1904 A precious one has gone. A voice we loved is stilled. A place is vacant in our home. Which never can be filled.". At the top of the stone was a symbol, the Lodge symbol of the Junior Order of United American Mechanics. The symbol looks like a carpenter's square cradling a compass with an arm with the hand holding a mallet. The birth date of 1855 is incorrect, he was born in 1862.
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6/14/97 I was at the Sullivan County Library in Blountville and found from the 1880 Census that James was a
Farmhand living with L. G. Dryden and Eliza I. Dryden. The Drydens were age 63 and 61; James was age 18 in that census. Also in the Dryden household is Elizabeth (age 56) and Elkanah (age 19) Stophel. The significance here is that not far from the Dryden household is Elizabeth Crumley age 43 and Mary age 12 (351). Elizabeth
Crumley's maiden name is Stophel and they are probably related. This may be how James met Mary Crumley.
On the Sullivan County GENWEB site is a cemetery listing of Cold Springs Cemetery that has the following
Dryden data: Leander G. Dryden b. 1/15/1816 d. 1/18/1896, Elizabeth J. Dryden b. 9/6/1818 d. 12/27/1898.
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On 4 September 2004 I received from "Tricia" <mayberry_lady1@yahoo.com> a record from Looney Stophel
that the above Mary Crumley age 12 is most likely the Mary that married James in 1881. Her age at marrige is
estimated at 14.
Elizabeth Stophel (mother of Elizabeth Crumley) was born abt 1795. Elkanah was born in 1827. Haven't been
able to find any marriage for him. There is another Elkanah Stophel, grandson of Elizabeth Stophel. He was
born in 1859. May have been working for the family???Elizabeth Crumley was born 1837 married (1865).
Phillip Crumley (born 1827 and died in 1878).
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In the 1880 Census two other Souths William and Samuel are listed in separate households. William South age 12
is a boarder and farm hand in the household of Henry and Sarah Hines. He is not listed as a relative and unlike
James and Samuel he lists Father born in NC and Mother born in VA. James, Samuel, and William are all listed
as born in TN. Samuel South age 4 is listed as a boarder in the household of Phillip and Mary A. Harliss. He is
not listed as a relative. William Brisco age 82 is also listed as a boarder.
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Louella sent me this:
"I have another bit of information that may be of some help to you. In the Bristol City Directory for 1896-1897 I
found James and Mary South residing at 1220 5th St (page 78). From this we can assume that Mary was still
living at that time. James married our great-grandmother (Vol 3 page 433 of the Sullivan County marriage
Bonds) shortly after that. If he posted a marriage bond on 1/8/1897 then he must not be married to Mary at that
time. From this it look like something happened to Mary in late 1896 or early 1897."
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In the 1900 Census James was listed as a Carpenter. He and his wife Venie had been married 3 years.
1900 Census Bristol, Sullivan County, TN 17th Civil District Enumeration District 121
South, James E., age 42, Dec. 1862, married 3 years, he and parents born in TN, Carpenter
, Venie, age 23, May 1877, she and parents born in VA
, Sarah, age 17, April 1883, she and father born TN, mother born VA
, Kenni, age 12, Oct 1887, he and father born TN, mother born VA
, Robert, age 2, Dec 1897, he and father born TN, mother born VA
, Ollie, age 4/12, Feb 1900, she and father born TN, mother born VA
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An article from the "Bluefield Dailey Telegraph" Bluefield WV, dated 7 April, 1904, states:
Insurance Man Killed by Train-----Bristol, Tenn., April 6--A horrible accident occured on the Southern yards here
this morning when an incoming passenger train ran down James South, solicitor and collector for the
Metropolitan Insurance Company, killing him instantly. He stepped on the main line track to dodge a moving
switch engine and was struck by the passenger train. The deceased was 45 years old and leaves a widow and four
children who reside here.
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Sullivan County, Tennessee Administrator's Bonds and Letters March 1875-July 1904 Transcribed by Shelia
Steele Hunt 1996, Estate of James E. South - Administrator A.C. Keebler, Bondsman A.C. Keebler, Saml
McCrary, A.C. Harkleroad - Amount $500 - Date 12 May 1904. Page 472.
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1896 Residence: Bet. 1896 - 1897, 1220 5th Street Bristol TN
1900 Residence: June 1900, 914 Fouth Street Bristol TN
Burial: Paperville United Methodist Church Cemetery, Tennessee
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6/14/97 I found a 1905 news clipping that says "Kinney South is the name of an orphan boy at the poorhouse. He
has fits, and is a pitiable object. His father who was killed on the railroad, was a member of the Junior Order.
Some members of that order paid him a visit Sunday and manifested some interest in this poor, little unfortunate
fellow. We hope they will not forget him."
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The following is info I have gathered on the Junior Order:
The JOUAM was founded in 1853 as a fraternal and political secret society for American citizens of both sexes.
Later they added insurance for members. If they still exist it is only at the local lodge level.
Membership in the organization was not contingent upon association with "mechanics." In those days,
"mechanic" meant "artisan" which is why the symbolism may seem close to Masonic--they borrowed from a
symbol they admired. Any native-born white American could join (of either sex which was unusual at the time)
but must believe in a supreme being, support the separation of church and state and not be engaged in the liquor trade.
The JOUAM wanted to prevent sectarian influences in public schools while upholding the reading of the Holy
Bible. They were one of several xenophobic, anti-Catholic organizations that existed at this time.
They had only one degree, had an initiation rite and a burial ceremony for members.
At some point during this century they removed their racial and religious restrictions and opened up membership
to all American citizens of both sexes from "cradle onward." They were in existence up until 1979 (last recorded national address) after that they disappeared from the national level.
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The following data on the Junior Order I recorded from Bristol City Directories:
Bristol City Directory for 1896-97.
Nothing listed for The Junior Order of United American Mechanics
Bristol City Directory for 1905-06.
The Junior Order of United American Mechanics Border City Council No. 126 - meets every Wednesday at 8PM
Knights of Honor Hall.
C. H. Richards Sec.
I found two (2) Richards in the Directory that may fit .
Cambell Richards, driver East Tenn Brewing Co. Home is Scanton near V&S W RY
Charles Richards, drayman. Home is 912 Railway.
Bristol City Directory for 1910.
The Junior Order of United American Mechanics Border City Council No. 126 - meets every Wednesday at 8PM
Knights of Honor Hall.
No Sec. Listed.
Bristol City Directory for 1923-24.
The Junior Order of United American Mechanics Border City Council No. 162 {may be a misprint and should
have been 126} - meets every Wednesday at 8PM at 648 State Street. Hall.
W. R. Anderson Sec.
William R. Anderson and wife Lydia, Clerk at E. W. King Co. Inc. Home is 1308 Broad Street.
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More About JAMES EDWARD SOUTH:
Burial: Paperville Cemetery
Notes for MARY C. CRUMLEY:
1880 Census, Sullivan County TN, 1st Civil District, page 30
Crumley, Elizabeth, age 43, TTT
Mary, age 12, TTT This may be my Mary Crumley.
I believe that Elizabeth is a Stophel. Next door is Barbara Stoffle, age 44 by herself, then next is Owen and
Emiline Stoffle with 7 sons and two Aunts Sarah and Barbara Miller, ages 70 & 68. This Elizabeth is most
probably the widow of Phillip H. Crumley shown below in the 1870 census.
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1870 Census, Sullivan Co., TN, Bristol, Civil District 1, page 22
Crumley, Phillip H., age 42, Farmer, born TN
Elizabeth, age 32, born TN
Mary, age 2, born TN
They are living next door to Abraham (70), Elizabeth (74) and Barbarry (36) Stophel. Most probably parents of
Elizabeth Crumley. Phillip is buried in the Crumley Cemetery, born 10/14/1827 died 10/9/1878 he married
Elizabeth Stoffel/Stophel born 2/10/1837 died 6/16/1919.
4 September 06, 2004
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Notes for SARAH LOUVENA MOORE:
2/16/97 Ruby South, who was the wife of Hubert South, said that Venie's name was Louvenia Moore.
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4/4/97 I received a letter from Ruby stating that Venie was a Moore (different line than Ollie) with a full brother
Ed Moore and 3 half brothers Robert, Charley, and William H. Phelps. She was born in 1876. Venie is buried at
the Glenwood Cemetery in the same plot as Ollie Mae and Ray Stoots. Her last husband was a Humphrey.
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4 October 19, 2003
According to her memorial plate she died as Mrs. Spangler. The 1946 City Directory states: Spangler Vena h517
Cadar W (Tenn) phone 1656L.
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Louella Jones Burnette is the daughter of Dorothy Carrier Jones a 1st cousin of my dad. Ollie Mae South Carrier
is the sister of my grandfather Robert Edward South Sr.
From: LBurne2719@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:49:21 EDT
Subject: Marriages of Sarah Louvenia Moore
To: fsouth@awod.com
Fred,
Maw went by the name of Spangler when she dies, but that was not her last marriage. She was married to Caleb
Spangler prior to her marriage to Mr. Humphreys. Maw and Caleb must have been divorced because Caleb lived
in Salem, VA after 1965. Ollie Mae went to see him while he lived there but I don't remember the year. Sometime
between 1965 and 1977. Maw's marriage to Mr. Humphreys was short lived and occurred sometime in the late
40's or early 50's. I remember him living with Maw when Mom and Dad lived next door to
her. Mom and Dad moved away from that house in 1952-1953. I don't remember the exact year. Mr Humphries or
Humphreys was the father of Ruth Dobbins (wife of Harvey Dobbins). This may give you a clue to finding the
marriage and divorce records in the Bristol, TN or Sullivan County records.
Hope this helps your research.
Louella
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I have yet to find Venie in the 1880 Census.
1900 Census see husband James South. 1910 thru 1930 Census see husband William Johnson.
More About SARAH LOUVENA MOORE:
Burial: Glenwood Cemetery
Children of JAMES SOUTH and MARY CRUMLEY are:
i. LAURA E.2 SOUTH, b. October 13, 1881, Sullivan County, TN.
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Notes for LAURA E. SOUTH:
According to Louella Burnette 6/97, Laura may have gone to Kansas.
In the 1900 Census of Sullivan County Laura is not listed with the family.
I have found no other records on Laura and have no clue where she went.
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I received the following from David South:
From: "David South" <dsouth@epix.net>
To: "South, Frederick Thomas" <fsouth@awod.com>
Subject: Laura South
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 07:58:26 -0500
Fred,
Saw your post on Rootsweb. Don't know if this helps or not. LAURA E SOUTH, dau of James Edward South
and Mary C Crumley was born October 13, 1881 in Sullivan Co, Tn. She married FRANCIS MARION HEADLEE 1899. He was born February 10, 1875.
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David South told me on 1/1/03
Parents of Francis Marion Headlee may have been Samuel Headlee and Nancy Steele
From data I have researched it does not appear that the Laura, David refers to is my Laura but one that is the
daughter of Job South.
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ii. SARAH SOUTH, b. April 1883, Sullivan County, TN.
Notes for SARAH SOUTH:
In the 1900 Census of Sullivan County Sarah is listed as being age 17 , birth April 1883 in TN.
I have found no other records on Sarah and have no clue where she went.
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iii. KINNEY SOUTH, b. October 1887, Sullivan County, TN; d. April 18, 1910, Sullivan County, TN.
Notes for KINNEY SOUTH:
6/12/97 Dorothy Carrier (Dad's 1st cousin) said that Kinney had fits and died in an institution.
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In the 1900 Census of Sullivan County Kinni is listed as being age 12 , birth October 1887 in TN.
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MINUTES, SULLIVAN COUNTY COURT, OCT 3rd TERM, 1904, PAGE 265
Kenney South added to list of Paupers Outside Poor House.
On Motion of Justice Rader the rules of the Court were suspened, and it was ordered by the Court that
Kenney South, residing in the 17th Civil District of Sullivan County ??, and he is hereby, added to the list of
paupers outside the poor house at the rate of $5.00 per quarter with Robt. Pile Esq. As his receiver.
(By a ??? Voice Vote of the Court)
My personal thoughts: Looks like my gr grandmother got rid of Kennie as soon as James died. I just wish I could find his sisters Laura and Sarah so as not to forget them either.
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6/14/97 I was at the Sullivan County Library in Blountville and found from a 1905 news clipping that says
"Kinney South is the name of an orphan boy at the poorhouse. He has fits, and is a pitiable object. His father who was killed on the railroad, was a member of the Junior Order. Some members of that order paid him a
visit Sunday and manifested some interest in this poor, little unfortunate fellow. We hope they will not forget
him."
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8/4/97 I found at the Sullivan County Library in Blountville a record of his death. It said his age was 20 and that he died from "fits" at the poor house, 5th District.
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The following data I received from Kyle Johnson, 4542 Elkins Drive, Centerville, Tennessee, 37033, March
1999.
Bristol Herald Courier articles dated Tuesday, April 19, 1910.
Title: KENNY SOUTH DIES AT COUNTY POOR HOUSE MONDAY.
Kenny South, the fifteen year old lad who has been an inmate of the Sullivan county poor house since the
death of his parents a few years ago, died there early Monday morning. The news of his death was received
by Squire R. Pile, who has taken a great interest in the unfortunate boy and who was much grieved to hear it.
His body will be buried beside that of his parents. The funeral will occur today and will be in charge of the J.
O. U. A. M.
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Sullivan County Death Record.
Number 87901
Report made by B. Seneker
Enumerator of the Fifth School District of Sullivan County
Name of Deceased Kenny South
Date of Death April 18 1910
Sex Male Color White
Age twenty
Married or Single Single
6 September 06, 2004
Place of Death Poor House
Cause of Death Fits
Place of Birth Not Known
Occupation None
Name of Physician attending on last sickness Parrott
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I have yet to find the grave sites of Kinnie or his mother. They may be in unmarked graves at the Paperville
Cemetery if the Obituary above is correct. I would think that if he was indeed buried by the JOUAM as his
father was then there would be a stone similar to James'.
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Children of JAMES SOUTH and SARAH MOORE are:
2. iv. ROBERT EDWARD2 SOUTH, b. December 24, 1897, Bristol, Sullivan County, TN; d. January 1986,
Kingsport, Sullivan County, TN.
3. v. OLLIE MAE SOUTH, b. February 02, 1900, Bristol, Sullivan County TN; d. Unknown.
4. vi. HUBERT LEE SOUTH, b. October 21, 1902, Bristol, TN; d. April 12, 1981, Bristol, VA.


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