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Re: A Spayd history that my Great Grandfather had
Posted by: Patricia Messenger (ID *****0997) Date: June 26, 2006 at 13:56:05
In Reply to: A Spayd history that my Great Grandfather had by Patricia Messenger of 31

Hello fellow Spayd researchers.

I posted this history a couple of months ago, and the more I looked at it the more I realized that these Spayds were not part of my ancestry.

The history has some problems. First, the 1679 date that the first Spayd was supposed to have come to America. My problem with this date is that it was before the great Palatime migration. William Penn had not yet inherited his land and invited the german protestants for his great experiment. The horrible winter of 1707 had not yet occurred tht caused such starvation driving masses of germanic people from their homelands. If a Spayd did come that early, I can't find him. There would have been more than a generations time before the Palatines were shipped to Schoarie New York by Queen Ann. This has to be the story that Mr. Spayd is telling. I checked the sustenance lists and Symmendingers lists for that group and didn't find a Spayd. The closest I found wasSpaeten or something like it, but that family didn't migrate to Berks County.

The John Spayd that arroved on the Two Brothers apparently settled in Philadelphia. he Philip Spayd that arrived on the Two Brothers in 1754 actually arrived on the Brothers. This matters, because in 1754 the two brothers sank, in sight of a sweedish ship and they saved the crew and allowed all 300 Palatinate passengers to drown. This Phillip Jacob Spath went to another county, I believe Alleghany, and is not in my line. The writer of that history refers to the Charles Spayd history, and I believe he is referring to Morton Montgomery's 1909 publication, Annals of Berks County, which has a biography of Charles Spayd. He traces Charles's Spayd back to his Great Grandfather, Philip Spayd, and it is this reference to this Philip that the writer of the history that I previously posted confused with another Philip that arrived on another ship.

My line of Spayds goes like this.
Johann Heinrich (Henry) Spath and his brother Johannes Phillipus (Philip) Spath arrived on the Snow Rowan in Philadelphia on September 30, 1753. Johann Heinrich Spath goes to Berks County and settles in Heidelberg Township. He has at least three children. Johann George Spath (Spat), apparently named after his father back in Germany, Anna Maria Spath, apparently named for a sister who also lived in Berks and married Ludwig Lupp, a German Reformed Minister, Ludwig Lupp who also arrived on the Snow Rowan with Philip and Henry. Anna Maria was most likely on the ship too, but they only listed the names of males over 16 years of age. Henry also had a son named Philip who is my ancestor. Henry fought in the Revolutionry War in Captain Filbert's Unit from Berks County, and remained living in Heidelberg Township for the remainder of his life.

His son Philip married Catharina Papp (possibly BABB), and they had many children, including John. John was born 18 Feb 1792, and died 7 feb 1860 He is buried at Eplers cemetery. He is the first of our ancestors that we know the burial place of, and the first to have americanized his name to Spayd.

The history that I previously posted may still be of use to others who are related to the John or Philip who are mentioned there. I would love to hear from you!

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