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Re: John Stell/Susannah Malone
Posted by: judith stell (ID *****5811) Date: April 13, 2009 at 05:25:12
In Reply to: John Stell/Susannah Malone by Josh Taylor of 497

don't know if this will help or hurt... cannot pin down lineage for John Stell:

Birth of first son was 1767. Standard circa birth the father at age 25, or that John was born about 1742 (+/- 5 years). Various submissions show an exact date of birth as February 18, 1733-4 and February 18, 1744, without cites. An uncited genealogy states John died July 27, 1800. John was apparently deceased before the 1800 census.

Family researchers believe John married Susannah in Amelia County, VA about 1764. Susannah's father had been Amelia County, but was in Northampton Co., NC by 1764. A marriage record has not been found in Amelia County, and this is probably a circa date based on first son's birth. It is an assumption that John and Sussannah married in Amelia or Northampton about 1764.

John was a farmer. He was in Newbury, SC about 1767. He later moved to Hancock Co., GA. John was a Private in the Revolution from South Carolina. (DAR Patriot Index-Centennial Edition, DAR Centennial Administration, Washington DC, 1990) Family researchers report he was a Private in Capt. William Smith's Company under Col. John Thomas, Sumpter's Brigade 96th District at Cape Fear, SC and that he served April 26, 1781 to April 18, 1782, Lt. Col. John Thomas' Regiment of Dragoons, Gen Sumter's brigade.

1960 letter of Birdie Stell Bell to Sena Roach Ramer, passage reportedly from "Documents Relating to the History of SC During the Revolution" by Salley, p. 99: "John Stell, pvt.; commencement of service April 26, 1781; 10 mos. pay and Bounty in negroes - 1 grown - bal due - 1 grown. Payroll of Capt. William Smith's Troops of Light Dragoons in the Regiment commanded by Lt. Col. John Thomas, Jr." The citation from this book also states that John Stell was born in Prince George Co., VA.

1790 census, Newberry Dist., SC, p. 58: John Stell (Sr. or Jr., looks more like "Sr") 1M16+, 2M-16, 5 females. On the same page are William Malone 1-1-2-0-8 and John Malone 1-1-2-0-1. (according to Randolph A. Malone, Malone & Allied Families, they are kin to Susannah Malone Stell) The ages in this 1790 household would match up with those of John & Susannah Stell.

1790 Pendleton Dist., SC, p. 7 shows a James "Stell" 1-4-2-0-0 enumerated next to a Vilot "Steel" 0-0-2-0-0. (submission to LDS Ancestral File indicates a James Steel as son of Violet Steel). 1790 Newberry Dist., SC also shows a Samuel Steel, p. 68 and Robert Steel, p. 62.

Researcher's account indicates John & Susan lived in Newberry, South Carolina between the Enoree and Tiger Rivers. Later moved to Jefferson, then Washington Co., and settled on Rocky Comfort Creek with Mr. and Mrs. Coates, then on to Hancock Co., Georgia.

Robert Stell, 1M16+, 3F, is shown in 1790 Newbury Dist., SC two houses from Levi Johnson. Levi Johnson married a daughter of John Stell.

*Unable to find another John Stell/Still in 1790, the one suspected as father of John Stell d.c. 1804, in Newberry, SC, who supposedly died in 1791 or 1797.

Penelope Allen recounts: "John took his son, James (a lad of 15 or 16 years) with him to Savannah with a load of produce, in company with two other wagons. Having sold out and bought their supplies, they were returning home, when he complained of cold, perhaps at night; and next morning he put James to driving while he lay in the wagon and slept all day. At evening they were camped by a large pond, they discovered him in the pond waist deep breaking limbs, as he said for the fire. They could not call him out, but had to wade in and bring him out by force. They found him with a burning fever and no sense; they then did all they could for him, and lay by the next day and got what help they could; but he died the next night, and they buried him by the roadside in Effingham County." (Penelope Johnson Allen, Genealogy of a Branch of the Johnson Family and Connections, Chattanooga, TN, 1967)

After John's death, it is believed Susan lived with her daughter, Sarah Johnson, until her death, and then went to live with son, John Wesley. (Susie Brunson Stell, A Tree is Planted, Wayland College Press, 1956; Randolph A. Malone, Malone & Allied Families, McNaughten & Gunn, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, 1986; Gwinnet County Georgia Families 1818-1968; Rodney Stell LDS record 3/1993)

His parentage is not proved. Descendants have carried down stories that he came from France, Germany and England. That he came to the colony as a Hessian soldier has since been disproved by his service record in the Revolution. Several charts, none with cites and all different, in SC show various descent from a Michael Stell of Keighley, Yorkshire, England. There are today Stells in Keighley. The death record of a John Stell in 1791 Newbury and/or 1797 Edgefield SC is shown by some researchers and this John is shown in charts as father of John d. 1804, original of this death record or administration needs to be found. Nothing has been found that connects the Still/Stells of Edgefield, SC.

Others believe there may be a connection to the Stells of Prince George Co. (later Dinwiddie) VA, who arrived there (Charles City Co.) in 1657 and settled in the same area as the Malones. There are still Stells in the Dinwiddie, VA area today. John's grandson, John Dennis Stell, wrote to his son in 1852 that John Stell came to the colony before the Revolution and landed near Cape Fear, NC (SC), but John Dennis wasn't born until 1804 and his father died when he was about 10 years old. His grandmother was still living with John Dennis' uncle, then aunt in DeKalb County, while John Dennis went to Gwinnett County shortly after his father's death. An exact record of John's Revolutionary service needs to be found or the whereabouts of his Brigade, which is reported without cites as being at Cape Fear "SC" which might account for family stories of his coming to the colony there or of his name supposedly carved on a mantlepiece there. That Susannah Malone's father was in Amelia Co., VA and records for a George Stell being in Amelia Co. by 1760s further suggests a connection to the Stells of Dinwiddie. John Stell would have been a contemporary of the George Stell, Jr. who went to Amelia County from Prince George. Susannah Malone's brother, Robert, Jr., left a will in 1791, which named a "son" (son-in-law) Dennis Stell/Stile. The odds weigh heavily this Dennis Stell/Stile is related in some way to John Stell, and further suggests John Stell being from the Dinwiddie family. (See Stell Notes)

Logically, that John Stell was in Virginia in proximity to the Malone family and moved to NC, then SC with his new wife and her family and that he may have gone to Cape Fear with his Regiment makes more sense than John arriving with his father at Cape Fear and traveling to Virginia, finding a wife, and then moving back to South Carolina.

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