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Elinor Talbott m. Hezekiah Carman 1763 Balt. Co.
Posted by: Lou Poole (ID *****7703) Date: December 18, 2004 at 15:16:47
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It's a long story about how I reached this conclusion, but I think I have finally figured out who the Elinor Talbott (who married Hezekiah Carman 24 July 1763, as recorded in St. John's and St. George's Parish, Baltimore Co., Md) was, i.e., who her parents were.

It took a strong hunch, Ida Morrison (Murphy) Shirk’s "Descendants of Richard and Elizabeth (Ewen) Talbott of Poplar Knowle, West River, Anne Arundel County, Maryland," and lots of research through Baltimore County records to put this together.

First of all, if Elinor married Hezekiah in 1763, then we can guess that she was probably born ca. 1743-1747 (Hezekiah was born ca. 1745).

Second, it is important to realize that St. John's and St. George's were really two churches, but since they were served by the same minister (for many years, and the critical ones for this study), the records of both churches were combined. The St. John's church is at a considerable distance from where any of the Baltimore Co. Talbotts were located and can probably be ignored. But St. George's, as it turns out, was less than 5 miles from where one of the Talbott clans resided.

By doing an exhaustive research and analysis of all Talbot and Talbott (and sound-alike) names that I could find in Baltimore County, I was able to establish that there were three groups or clusters of Talbotts - all related, and all descendants of Edward Talbott (1658-1689, m. Elizabeth Thomas, of Anne Arundel Co., Md.).

One group is located on Elk Ridge, on the Anne Arundel-Baltimore County line, south of Baltimore. This clan is headed by John Talbott (b. 1701, m. Prudence Colegate in 1723). John and Prudence are probably too old to be Elinor's parents, and the birth dates of their children make them too young. Besides, they were quite a distance from where Elinor and Hezekiah married.

The other two groups are headed by brothers. One is the family of Edward Talbott (1723-1797, m. Temperance Merryman), and they were located near the head of the Gunpowder River near present-day Joppatowne. Edward DID leave a will, naming his children, and most of the children's births are corroborated through extant records. He does not appear to be the father of the subject Elinor.

The last group was the family of John Talbott (Edward's brother) (c1722-1777, m. Margaret Webster 22 August 1741, dau. of Isaac Webster and Margaret Lee), who were living at the head of the Bush River, very near the present-day town of Bush. This location is within about 3-5 miles of the old St. George's church where Elinor and Hezekiah were married.

In Ms. Shirk's otherwise excellent book she DOES list two children for John and Margaret (Webster) Talbott: John and Mary. However, detailed research shows that they were born 24 Feb 1759 (John) and 11 Oct 1765 (Mary) [Quaker Records]. It is inconceivable to me that John and Margaret were married in 1741 and did not have a first child until 1759! Which strongly suggests that other children were born to John and Margaret in those intervening years who have been "lost." Indeed, there do appear to be three possible sons: James, Mathew, and Edmund/Edward, who are of the right age, are otherwise "unattached" and who are in the right location to be other children of John and Margaret. Neither John nor Margaret left a will or estate settlement that has been found.

Thus, the CIRCUMSTANTIAL case for John and Margaret (Webster) Talbott being Elinor's parents boils down to three pregnant observations:

1. John and Margaret Talbott were living in very close proximity to the place where Elinor and Hezekiah were married (and were the ONLY ones so conveniently located).

2. John and Margaret Talbott were of the right age to be the parents of Elinor.

3. John and Margaret Talbott were married in 1741, and 18 years elapsed before a child was recorded as being born, strongly suggesting that they had other children born in that 18-year gap whose names are not known. (A fact which is curiously overlooked in Ms. Shirk's book.)


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