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Re: GeogeTeter/Samuel Teter
Posted by: Ace Maupin (ID *****4165) Date: October 03, 2011 at 07:06:06
In Reply to: GeogeTeter/Samuel Teter by Michele Oren of 986


I will help you. Best to just forget everything you read.
there was never such a person named Capt Samuel Gibson Teater. It was mythical creation. His name was just Samuel Teeter. His great grandsons were Samuel Gibson Teeter.
Also there was no such place called Germany until after the US Cival War. Most Teters that came from Europe came by way of the Rhine to Rotterdam then North America. The name Dieter is boys name in now what is called modern Germany not a surmane. It was a name handed out by by Welsh English officials. Always check the real passenger list. Most teter s whom came before 1720 were spelled Dotter Thaeter Taeter Teather Ditter Tittery and most originated in or around Brabant Spanish Netherlands Tiderward Titterward Netherlands and migrated to as refugees to witenberg nurnberg baden alazy leonbroon to escape the Spanish Catholic and Catholic French armies .
I can prove with 95% degree scientific Y male DNA testing your Samuel Teeter and solid documents originated from Limburg Belgium Hendrick Hans Andies Taeter to Nurnberg 1670s then Leonbroon then London and settling in the Walloon distirct of Dutchess co New York. His grandfather Hendrick Tieter sons Henry Phillip Abraham John migrated to Fredrick co MD with Mary Doddriges grandfather Jan Biks or John Biggs from Dutchess co New York through New Jersey to Frderick co Maryland on to Bedford Pa Then Washington co PA and onwards..
WORDS OF WISDOM ON EUROPEAN HISTORY BY FOSTER.
A littlebit of German history may be
in order here.C Prior to Bismarck’s unification of the dozens of German speaking states, dukedoms,
and principalities in 1871, there was NO German nation. Until then the term German was strictly a
linguistic one. One spoke German, but one was not a German. If asked what nationality he was a
German speaking man would typically answer: I am Prussian, orBavarian, or Swabian, or
Wurttemberger, or Hessian (remember them from the Revolution?), orWestphalian, or
Pomeranian, or Austrian, or even Hungarian. The list is long. But,they never referred to
themselves as German. And don’t take my word for it. A look at American census records up to
1880 has countless references to these places of origin for newimmigrants. The one term that
never shows up is ‘German’. A man would say he was from Baden, but hewould not say that he
was from Germany. There were no Germans until just before the turn ofthe last century.So, please, lets all put this German business to rest, shall we?It serves no purpose and doesnot shed light on the real Tuetonics As I said above, thisis an American colloquialism.

If you want the truth contact me direct I will send you the DNA evidence and documets.
The George T Teator and Sarah Pearis line share a very close relationship DNA wise to Samuel Teeter Mary Doddridge family but have mutations on the haplogroup and dys markers. In any case none of these families do not match any one or any person of Tuetonic High German origin ethinicity in the world wide data base. Both families are of North African origin and Middle Eastern glassmakers of Spain and Lorriane France. Thier closest matchs are to the families in Mexico from Spanish conquistdors and glass mnakers of Broome England whom spelled thier names De Rojas Rodgers Tytter same persons originally spelled Dethietry morphed from 1550 Tyetter Tytter Tiettery Teator Teater Titter Teather
the 1st of this line in Virginia was George Teader also spelled George Teather 1680s Isle of Wight Va. The Teators of Kentucky match sogg group 8 with the Teathers Teathors Teators of Broome england begining from 1570s to 1845.

The "Huguenot" Lorrainers
Most notable among the "Huguenot" glassmakers who abandoned France and
established themselves in England were members of all four of the
families who had been granted noble status, the Gentilshommes Verriers
of the Lorraine
4: Glassmakers Kept Their Secrets From the Indigenous People Around Them.
No matter where in the world glassmakers found themselves, sharing
their art with or marrying an "outsider" was deemed treason to the
trade and a betrayal of the glassmaking community. "Outsiders" were
understood to include their indigenous neighbors. In contrast, all
glassmakers freely shared their art and intermarried with their
counterparts in and of alien lands, who were universally accepted as
part of their own extended family.
This was true of the Lorrainers, The practice of intermarriage only
between glassmaker's families was carried forward into England. The
names became anglicized, but marriage practice continued along ancient
lines to a late period. It mattered not a whit whether the families of
the couple came from the same country. It sufficed that both parties
were legitimately scions of glassmaking families.
An interesting case in point was the marriage of a Tittery with a
Rogers. What more English-sounding names can be conjured up?
The name Tittery, however, is an anglicisation of "Thietry," the name
under which the family had emigrated to England. According to
LaDaique, there is solid evidence that "Thietry," one of the four
families cited in the Glassmaker's Charter,
The Tittery daughters intermarried with members of the Rogers family
in the Stourbridge area. The Rogers were glassmakers descended from
John Roja,
in 1448 by King Rene, and were renewed with ceremony by his son John
of Lorraine in 1469.15 The extraordinary privileges granted by John of
Calabra to the makers of grande verre in the forest of Darney, became
famous as The Glassmaker's Charter. The charter begins with a
definitive opening paragraph:
Sydney Grazebrook, a nineteenth century researcher of the genealogy of
the "Noble families of Henzey, Tittery, and Tyzack," stated it
concisely: "Glass-making is a noble art, and those that practice it
are noble."17

(gentilshommes) status, but their decision to move into the area was
also dictated by the availability of wood. "When their hungry fires
had burned through one woods they moved to another. The Vosges forests
promised an inexhaustible supply of cleft billets they tossed into
their furnaces, not only for themselves, but also for the Henzeys (de
Hennezel) and the Titterys (de Thietry), their closest kinsmen and,
like them, tramps."18

The name of the De Roja family first became "Rosso" and "Rosse" (the
Italian translation of Roja meaning "red"). As was mentioned above, it
eventually became anglicized to "Rogers." Occasionally the intercourse
between the glassmaking families led to peculiar aliases. According to
the English glass historian Guttery, members of the Tittery family
appear occasionally under the alias "Roja." In 1641, for example the
death of a Daniel Tittery, alias Rogers, alias Roja was recorded! The
interchangeability of the names was undoubtedly a consequence of the
type of intermarriages mentioned above of the Tittery

Some of the Roja family retained the original Spanish form. A Daniel
Roja, for example was buried at Broome in 1687. A Henzey (Hennezel)and
a Bague were also buried in the same cemetery between 1676 and 1680.
NOTE this is were George Teator of Kentucky DNA leads staight to the
Teators Teathors Titters OF BROOME.

SOGG matchs for the George Teator of Garrard Ky
Pedigree for Match #3
group 8
John TEETER
Richard TEETER b. England
group 8
VENNER[USA-Texas], TEETER[USA-Kentucky], THOMAS[~USA-Kentucky]
VENNER[USA-Texas], TEETER[USA-Texas], THOMAS[USA-Kentucky]
Robert Paris TEETER
b. 23 Sep 1830 Tennessee, USA
d. 29 Feb 1888

BLOCKLEY BAPTISMS 1538-1612
TYTHER, John S. of Tyther, Richard 1557, Aug 14
TYTTER, John S. of TYther, Richard 1557, Aug 14
ROGERS, William S. of Rogers, Henrie 1560, Jul 7
TETHER, Richard S. of Tether, Richard 1560, Jul 14
TITTER, Elizabeth D. of Titter, John 1583, Jul 15
TITTER, Edward S. of Titter, John 1585, Dec 1
Samuel Teator Christening: 31 MAR 1756 Aylesbeare, Devon, England Thomas Teator Mother: Mary
1664 Hearth Tax
(Set according to the number of ‘hearths and stones’within
Northwich and Witton.)
(eg. Dorothy Bentley has 7, whereas George Leftwich has only 1.)
Northwich:-
Ottewell Rodgerson 1
Richard Roggerson 1
Margret Teator 1

Some of the Roja family retained the original Spanish form. A Daniel Roja, for example was buried at Broome in 1687. A Henzey (Hennezel)and a Bague were also buried in the same cemetery between 1676 and 1680
The name Tittery, however, is an anglicisation of "Thietry," the name under which the family had emigrated to England. According to LaDaique, there is solid evidence that "Thietry," one of the four families cited in the Glassmaker's Charter,
The Tittery daughters intermarried with members of the Rogers family in the Stourbridge area. The Rogers were glassmakers descended from John Roja,descent whose family name had become properly anglicized to "Rogers."14
Lorrainers, The practice of intermarriage only between glassmaker's families was carried forward into England. The names became anglicized, but marriage practice continued along ancient lines to a late period. It mattered not a whit whether the families of the couple came from the same countryAn interesting case in point was the marriage of a Tittery with a Rogers. What more English-sounding names can be conjured up?
BLOCKLEY Burials
TETHOR 1
TEATOR 1
TEATER 1
TEATHER 2
TYTHER 3
TYZACK 2
TYTERY? 1
NOTE Teather Titter Teater Teator Tyther Tytery Titter Tytter Tethor. Are all the same family all the same people descendants David Tytter
Anne Detheirtry Capt Dedier Du henzzell TEETERS settled in Lorrriane France 1400 Roja Rodgers Teeter. alias names same people.

Boyds Marriage Index 1
Boyds Records
George Teator Ellen Allin 08 DEC 1698 Prestbury, , Dorset, England

Y search for the world wide data base George Teator line Kentucky
Parris M Teator
GarrKY-P1 HAPLOGROUP E1b1b 13 16 17 12 13 17 24 10 11 13 11 14 10 12
16 16 12 25 20 32 31 11 11 18 15 9 9 9 12 12 18 14 15.3 16 17 21 12 19
21 16 12 Y male DNA matchs of George T Teator and Sarah Pearis
Parris Y search DYS comparisons.

Compare User ID Pedigree Last Name Origin Haplogroup Tested With
Markers Compared Genetic Distance
A5W4E Morones Encarnacion de Diaz, Mexico Unknown Family Tree DNA 9 0
9726G Blatter Venlo, Netherlands Unknown Family Tree DNA 9 0
RX9V3 salem United Arab Emirates Unknown Family Tree DNA 9 0
CGCE4 Salazar Unknown Unknown Family Tree DNA 9 0
DP2JX Seidenfeld Chust, Austro-Hungarian Empire E1b1b1 (tested)
Family Tree DNA 9 0
DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19/394 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426
DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1
13 24 13 9 16 17 11 12 13 13
DYS 392 DYS 389-2
11 30
Haplogroup: Unknown
Last name: Morones
Variant spellings:
DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19/394 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426
DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1
13 24 14 10 16 17 11 12 13 13
DYS 392 DYS 389-2
11 30
Haplogroup: E1b1b1 (tested)
Last name: Drake
Variant spellings: Brewer May
Tested with: Family Tree DNA
Contact person: Thomas L. Drake Contact this user
Most distant known paternal ancestor on the direct male line
First Name: William G.
Last Name: Brewer
Year Born: About 1824
Year Died: About 1875
Country of Origin: Catham, County, North Carolina, America
Latitude:
Longitude:

Tested with: Family Tree DNA
Contact person: Ezequiel Morones Contact this user
Most distant known paternal ancestor on the direct male line
First Name: Francisco
Last Name: Morones
Year Born: About 1885
Year Died: 1967
Country of Origin:c Encarnacion de Diaz, Mexico
Latitude: 21 deg N
Longitude: 102 deg W
DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19/394 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426
DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1
13 24 13 11 16 17 11 12 13 13
DYS 392 DYS 389-2
11 30
Haplogroup: Unknown
Last name: Blatter
Variant spellings: Platter Bladder Aufdenblatten
Tested with: Family Tree DNA
Contact person: Franciscus Blatter Contact this user
Most distant known paternal ancestor on the direct male line
First Name: Johannus
Last Name: Blatter
Year Born: About 1787
Year Died: 1854
Country of Origin: Venlo, Netherlands
Latitude: 51 deg 36 min 7 sec N
Longitude: 6 deg 16 min 7 sec E
DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19/394 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426
DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1
13 24 13 9 16 17 11 12 13 13
DYS 392 DYS 389-2
11 31
Haplogroup: Unknown
Last name: Salazar
Variant spellings:
Tested with: Family Tree DNA
Contact person: Virginia Bellis Contact this user
Most distant known paternal ancestor on the direct male line
First Name: Cruz
Last Name: Salazar
Year Born: About 1842
Year Died:
Country of Origin: Unknown
Latitude: N
Longitude: W
DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19/394 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426
DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1
13 24 13 10 16 17 11 12 13 13
DYS 392 DYS 389-2
11 31
Haplogroup: Unknown
Last name: salem
Variant spellings:
Tested with: Family Tree DNA
Contact person: kahled Contact this user
Most distant known paternal ancestor on the direct male line
First Name: khaled
Last Name: salem
Year Born:
Year Died:
Country of Origin: United Arab Emirates
Latitude:
Longitude:
DYS 19/394 DYS 426 DYS 388 DYS 459a DYS 459b DYS 455 DYS 437
DYS 448 DYS 464a DYS 464b
13 12 12 9 9 11 14 20 14 14
DYS 464c
14
Matching entered genetic markers on at least 8 markers, allowing a
maximum genetic distance of 0.
Haplogroup: Unknown
Last name: Q1a3a-Native Mexicans
Variant spellings: origin
Tested with: Family Tree DNA
Contact person: Researcher Contact this user
Most distant known paternal ancestor on the direct male line
First Name:
Last Name:
Year Born:
Year Died:
Country of Origin: 18/11, Mexico
Latitude:
Longitude




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