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Posted by: Dedra Theoret (ID *****1042) Date: January 10, 2010 at 21:39:57
In Reply to: LEWIS BROCK TYSOR by James Brooks of 218

Theory on the Migration of Ticer’s

From LeighAnn Ticer Bishop:
York, S.C. and Mecklenburg/Anson, N.C. are connecting counties!!! Chatham is only about 3 counties northward, and Wilkes is about 6 counties west of Chatham.

Why is this important? Well, because in the late 1700s, York/Mecklenburg/Anson was interchangeable!

Also, because:
- Chatham is LEWIS TYSOR---PG. 24 is said to have a dark ruddy complexion reflecting his Portuguese ancestry. The family trait caused some of the family to be called “the black Tysors”---from The Tysors of Old Chatham
- Wilkes is ELLIS TYCER
- York is HUGH TICER
- Mecklenburg is HENRY & RICHARD TYCER (1830)

Northumberland County, Virginia Marriage Bonds 1783-1850
From Dedra Ticer Theoret in Manassas, VA library:

Ticer(Tycer), John & Harriet Thomas 23 Dec 1839, John Sank, Jr. sec.

Ticer, John, free negro, & Eliza Casty, free negro, 17 Feb. 1847, Baldwin
Boyd sec.

Ticer, Lewis & Nancy Haynie, 12 Feb 1810, William Burns sec.

Northumberland County, VA. Dating from 1741 have TAYCOR, TAYCER, TICER but linked to the spelling TAYCER, TYCER, one TISSER

From: The Tysor's of Old Chatham by Broughton
LEWIS TYSOR name is also noted in his Revolutionary War as TYSER

Pg. 4 “Other reports state that Lewis Tysor was born in Halifax County, North Carolina, and that the father had come from Portugal”

Pg. 4 “The Tysor family of Chatham County, North Carolina is descended from Lewis Tysor, one of three brothers that came from France with the Marquis de Lafayette to fight in the American Revolution. The brothers were Lewis, Charles, and Thomas Tysor. Their father, a native of Portugal, had gone to France to fight in a war and while there had been married. The military record of Lewis Tysor is from North Carolina, showing enlistment in Halifax County. Charles and Thomas Tysor were reported as having settled on either Hogs Island or Knotts Island, Virginia, near the North Carolina border, with their military records in Virginia. Lewis Tysor is said to have gone to Chatham County to receive land for his military service.

PG. 24 Lewis TYSOR Born: 1/10/1755 PLACE OF BIRTH has not been established

Pg. 25 The records show that a large group of the TICER(TYSOR sp is what the author had) family was in the Northumberland County, Virgina well before the Rev. War. Other records show that the soldiers with the names similar to TICER (TYSOR sp. Is what the author had) did come with the MARQUIS DE LAFAYETTE to fight in the war. The fact that the military service record of Lewis TICER (Tysor sp. Is what the author had) shows that he was drafted in Halifax County, N.C. on several occasions for service in the REV. WAR is strong proof that he was a citizen of that county. If he had come with Lafayette, he would have already been in service, and a draft would have been unneeded.

Pg. 25 cont.

Since the records show that Lewis TICER (Tysor sp is what the author had) was in some of the battles with Lafayette, such as the Battle of Green Springs, Virginia on July 6, 1781, this may be the basis for the family tradition the Lewis TICER (Tysor sp. Is what the author had) came from France with Lafayette

Pg. 4 “One report, without proof, states that Thomas Tysor went to Arkansas-no further record

Ellis Tycer started out in Halifax County, NC. He then moved to Wilkes County, NC, before heading out to Dickson, TN. Wilkes County also has a Fred Ticer who enlisted there for the war of 1812. He ended up in Indiana. Side note on him - he had a half brother named Orrin DOWDY (as in Lucy Dowdy & Augustine Ticer). Supposedly, Fred's mother was Frances Ticer.

(There is also a Ticer named Orrin. who married an Ann. They lived in Chatham County NC.)

Augustine was one of about 11 kids - Israel, Jordan, Dennis, Louis, Austin, Gabriel, Gideon, Augustine, Frances, Rose, and Violet. Augustine, Gideon & Gabriel all lived in Ohio.

In the mid 1770s, a couple named William & Margit Ticer had 2 sons - Gabriel & Gideon - in Northumberland, VA. Many thought they were the parents of Augustine, et al. (esp. because Augustine, Gabriel, Gideon all moved to the same part of Ohio)

Here's the twist with them: The name again is seen as interchangeable depending on notes, censuses, etc.
One tree has the 3 Tysor Brothers: Thomas, Charles Augustine, and Lewis.
They have the children of CHARLES listed as: Frances, Gabriel, Israel, Rose, Violet, Augustine, and Gideon.
The children of LEWIS listed as: Jordan, Dennis, Dilza, Elizabeth, Julia, Orren, and Harris. All from Chatham County NC.

In 1820, Chatham has Jordan (15-26) & Lewis (over 45). They lived next to a DOWDY.
In 1830, only Lewis (60-70).
In 1840, Dennis, Harris, and Orin (all 30-40), and Jordan (40-50).

Early Chatham County Records
From the book of “The Tysors of Old Chatham” by W. Harold Broughton
Retyped from “The Tysors of Old Chatham” by Dedra Ticer Theoret
1792------Lewis TYCER from John McDonald, 100 acres, Cain Creek for 60 lbs.
1798------Lewis TICER from Nath. & Ann Stedman, 350 acres, Deep River, for 100 lbs.
1798------Lewis TYSER to David Fox, 100 acres on Cain Creek
1802------Lewis TICER from Arthur McDaniel, 120 acres, for 60 lbs.
Note: The land from the Stedman family appears as a token price. This land was of the land grant #300 first held by THOMAS DOWDY. It was next held by William Clark, who sold it to the Stedman’s. Jordan TYSOR, Sr. obtained part of it from Lewis.
1807------Augustine TISER heirs of Thomas Dowdy to William Norman, deed
Thomas Dowdy heirs of Thomas Dowdy to William Norman, deed
George Dowdy heirs of Thomas Dowdy to William Norman, deed
Berkley Dowdy heirs of Thomas Dowdy to William Norman, deed
Edward Bray heirs of Thomas Dowdy to William Norman, deed
1824------Jordan Tysor from Lewis TYSOR, 130 acres, Deep River for 100lbs.
1826------Augustine & Lucy TISER of Hamilton County, OHIO to William Dowdy, 100 Acres
1832------Jordan Tysor from John Null, Jr., a land deed
1837------Jordan Tysor from Joseph May a land deed
1846------Jordan Tysor from J. Stone deed of trust
1866------Jordan Tysor from George Burns mortgage
1867------Jordan Tysor from W.C. McMachlin mortgage
1868------Jordan Tysor from Sheriff G.J. Williams deed
1869------Jordan Tysor WITH O.A. Tysor, partnership agreement for flour & corn mill on O.A. Tysor property. Jordan also owned a cotton gin.
1884------Jordan Tysor from Mary Ann Johnson, quit claim
1884------Jordan Tysor from Hasten Gilmore, quit claim
1885------Jordan Tysor from George W. Burns, quit claim

Pg. 38
(copied from a letter said to have been by a George Ticer (Tysor sp is what the author had)

Lewis TICER (Tysor sp is what the author had) the father of JORDAN, DENNIS, ORAN A., and HARRIS TICER (Tysor sp is what the author had) came from his father from France in Colonial days to this country. The elder TICER (Tysor sp. is what the author had) ALSO NAMED LEWIS settled in what BECAME the state of VIRGINIA. He had three sons, one named ALFRED who went to the WEST. Another whose name I do not recollect remained in VIRGINIA and LEWIS TICER (Tysor sp. is what the author had) came to the red hills of Chatham county. He married a MISS SUSAN HARRIS of Virginia, for whose maiden name Harris TYSOR was named. Lewis TICER (Tysor sp. is what the author had) was superintending the business of a very wealthy man when the war of the REVOLUTION came on he said, and I don’t know just what to do in the matter, whether to remain with KING GEORGE or go with the country, what do you propose to do in the matter? And he said he told him he was going to cast his lot with the country and immediately joined the American forces. He was with BENIDICT ARNOLD when he tried to surrender to the BRITISH forces; and was with the number that fought their way through the British lines, and remained with the American forces until CORNWALLIS surrendered at YORKTOWN to GEORGE WASHINGTON.

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