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Thanks, I found those, but his death record said he was born in 1847 and thought the age was way out of sorts...and if he was really born in 1847 he should have been in the 1850 but wasn't...and I can't find Hanse in 1860,..so can't prove a time line for John W........in one census Hanse was listed as deaf and dumb so maybe that accounts for the age problems on John W......Think Joanna Collins was the third wife...he married her in 1851 and supposedly married Mary(Polly) Foard in 1835...and Pheriby Buttram in 1847....she's probably John W.'s mother.....in one census, John W. said he was born in March of 1850????? So who knows...thanks a million anyway.....if you ever run across Hanse in 1860 would appreciate a holler!!!!!
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