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Re: William Torrance, d. 1800 New York- Pembroke, Plymouth Co, MA VR'
Posted by: Kay (ID *****9509) Date: January 11, 2011 at 15:59:51
In Reply to: Re: William Torrance, d. 1800 New York; printed in Pembroke, Plymouth Co, MA news by jan mongoven of 1443


I apologize, the subject line should have read Pembroke, Plymouth Co, MA VR's, not news.

My query was also trying to find more details about a newspaper listing in NY. Many years ago, a volunteer emailed me with the information that William Torrance's name was included among the list of deceased in an 1800 New York newspaper, but I was not given the exact date nor the name of that newspaper. To date, I have not been able to track down the newspaper.

It hasn't been discovered why William was in NY, but Susannah Hardin Stoddard Torrence is alone by 1810; and remarried Constant Church in 1813 (Marshfield, MA; his 1st wife was Hannah Franklin 1749-1812). Constant Church d. 1815 and Susannah Torrence Church d. 1828 Pembroke.

A census listing appears for William Torrance in 1800 Belcherton, Hampshire Co, though I am not certain that the census stats are a good fit? Age wise, he is correctly over 45, but there are several individuals in the household. Perhaps he is visiting someone and was enroute to NY? Jeduthan Torrance is also found in 1800 Belcherton, Hampshire Co.

I wondered where you obtained the name 'Mary' vs. 'Susannah' Hardin Stoddard?

I do believe Susannah Torrance to have first married Abel Stoddard, as there is a 1784 Abington, MA marriage between Abel Stoddard & Susannah Hardin (d/o Nathaniel Hardin, Jr. and Rebecca Taylor). Note: Children of Nathaniel Hardin Jr/Rebecca Taylor: Huldah 1757 Pembroke, Seth 1758 Pembroke, Rebecca 1762 Pembroke, Nathaniel 1765 Pembroke, SUSANNAH 1766 Pembroke, Molle (Mollie?) 1768 Pembroke, Sarah 1770 Pembroke [As you can see this Hardin family was also in Plymouth Co., the same county where William and Susannah Stoddard Torrance's children were born].

Three years after the Hardin/Stoddard marriage, a 1787 Bridgewater, MA marriage is found between Susannah Stoddard & William Torrance. Of their 4 known children is a daughter named Susannah Hardin Torrance, b. 1792 Pembroke, Plymouth (md. John Cleveland), which indicates the mother's maiden name was likely Hardin.

The question of whether the above William Torrance [husband of Susannah], is the same William who md. 1774 Brookfield to Hepsibah Batcheldor (b. 1741 Wenham; d/o Benjamin/Hannah Batcheldor) has long been of interest.

It should also be noted that Susannah Torrance (d/o William) & John Cleveland moved to NH. If the Melvin Torrance who married Catherine Severence in 1813 is Melvin, son of William/Hepsibah, then it is likely that Melvin & Susannah are half-siblings and living in the same area in NH at the same time.

There are a few add'l items that are a mystery to me and perhaps you have info?:

#1 An Abel Stoddard is listed on a list of pensioners in Nantucket Co, MA under the Act of Mar 18, 1818. If I'm not mistaken the pension had a CT connection, however a 'Stodard' family is found on the island per 1850 VR's;

#2 Abel Stoddard was warned out of Plymouth on July 14, 1781 as a transient, per court records;

#3 There were 2 Abel Stoddards, who could have been the right age to have md in 1784: one was the s/o Phineas and Elizabeth Stoddard, b. Sept 19, 1768 Woodstock, CT - this Abel Stoddard md and had a family later on; another was the son of Sarah French & David Stoddard, both Sarah & David were born in 1750's Worchester Co, MA - d. 1830/40's Cheshire, NH.

#4 There was another William Torrance, who was the principal of the private Keene School in Keene, Cheshire Co, NH on 1850. He died 1855 at the age of 39. I do not know who his parents were, but Keene is very close to Worchester Co, MA border, In addition, in the Pembroke VR to 1850 is the private record of deaths in Pembroke & neighboring towns kept by William Torrence of Keene - the famiy Bible was last in the possession of William H. Torrence of Pembroke.

I look forward to your reply.
Kay (

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