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Black Dutch Yarbers/Yarbroughs?
Posted by: Teresa Yarber Hood (ID *****6226) Date: June 19, 2005 at 14:38:04
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I too have resided that our heritage originated from England, but was surprised to hear someone had mentioned German. I've had a puzzling piece discovered in my research. I doubt anyone else has heard this, but it would be interesting to know if the same "tale" was expressed. It originated from somewhere, but is there any truth to it?

My lineage beginning with me is, Teresa Ann Yarber (caucation), daughter of Carroll Yarber, who was son of John Newton Yarber, who was son of Newton Yarber (twin of Jasper), who was son of William Dawson Yarber, who was son of Shem Yarber. And Shem's father assumed to be Joshua, but to my knowledge, there has not been any proof gathered to confirm this.

The excellent researchers in our Yarbrough association have gathered that our family seems to have originated from England. When I sat down and showed my family back home in Unicoi, TN all the information we had been able to collect from the seeds of information they had provided, they were amazed at the vast of information. But, there is one thing that my two uncles just won't accept (one passed away this year). That's in regard to where we migrated from.

I know that family tales are just that... and should not be taken as gospel, but let me share with you something my Uncles have shared with me and were supposedly told by their grandfather William Dawson Yarber.

Seems William told them that their Yarber heritage was from Holland - which seemed to explain why some of their relatives were on the "shorter" side in height comparison. I have researched this for hours on end and could only find one Yarber in the Holland registry which was a Rudolph Yarber.... but I cannot find any link to him. They also said that William would talk about his ancestors as the "Black Dutch" "Black Dutchman"... They stand stern about being from Holland, regardless of the info I've been able to show them and share with them. I leave them to their opinion... who knows... they may be right.

I did find this statement:

In her comprehensive and objective article, "In Search of the Black Dutch", Myra Vanderpool Gormley, C.G. relates that, "The so-called 'Black Dutch" have long been an enigma in American genealogy. Their descendants are widely reported, yet no authoritative definition exists for this intriguing term."
Currently speculations on the meaning of Black Dutch range from American Indian to Sephardic Jew.
But rarely does German Gypsy enter the list of possibilities. Curiously, American German Gypsies living today have always called themselves Black Dutch, have never heard of it meaning anything but German Gypsy, and are surprised to hear it could mean anything else.

I haven't been able to find too much on this topic and have just started looking into it again. I realize that on paper, our Yarber family is logically derived from England. But some credit has to go to information directly from family members. I'm curious if any other researchers have heard a similar tale.

I have found in other postings the following information regarding Black Dutch as mentioned by my family:

"...the dutch either left or were asked to leave Holland. They settled in the black forest of Germany, hence: the name black dutch." (http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.ceeurope.germany.general/8057.1)

"...that was a code name people of American Indian desent used" http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.hancock/3.6.77.140.143.146)

"...black dutch" which seems to be a euphemism for a lot of things" http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.jenkins/383.439

"...Black Dutch" and I have come to understand that sometimes was a term for American Indians that didn't want to tell their heritage." http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states.oklahoma.unknown/60.173

"...part Creek indian, but he said the family kept it quiet by claming to be Black Dutch. I have since found evidence to the fact that Black Dutch was a term used in the 1800's to denote mixing of the races, not an actual location." http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.hall/301.611.790

"... was said to be "Black Dutch". A researcher a few years back directed me toward the Chickamauga Cherokees" http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.flippo/28.51.52.54

"The Chickamauga Cherokee connection is very strong. The descended from Dragging Canoe and Attacullaculla (look them up in the library) readbook titled Decimation Of A Nation.

They were told to lie and say they were whatever the local population was or what their wives" family was." http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.flippo/28.51.52.54.55

So, Melungeon, Holland, German, Indian?.... who knows for sure....

Yours in Genealogy,
teresayarber@aol.com


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